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I.R.S. Enlists Debt Collectors to Recover Overdue Taxes
New York Times ^ | Apr 20, 2017 | JESSICA SILVER-GREENBERG and STACY COWLEY

Posted on 04/20/2017 10:21:48 AM PDT by posterchild

The Internal Revenue Service is about to start using four private debt-collection companies to chase down overdue payments from hundreds of thousands of people who owe money to the federal government, a job it has handled in house for years.

Unlike I.R.S. agents, who are not usually allowed to call delinquent taxpayers by telephone, the outside debt-collection agencies will have free rein to do so. Consumer watchdogs are fearful that some of the nation’s most vulnerable taxpayers will be harassed and that criminals will take advantage of the system by phoning people and impersonating I.R.S. collectors.

Additionally, one of the four companies that the I.R.S. has hired, Pioneer Credit Recovery, a subsidiary of Navient, was effectively fired two years ago by the Education Department from its contract to collect delinquent debt for misleading borrowers about their loans at what the department called “unacceptably high rates.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debtcollectors; irs; navient; overduetaxes; pioneercredit
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1 posted on 04/20/2017 10:21:48 AM PDT by posterchild
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To: posterchild

What?

Obozo hired 50,000 NEW IRS AGENTS!

Where the hell are they?...................


2 posted on 04/20/2017 10:24:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: posterchild
Fine. Start with this freak.


3 posted on 04/20/2017 10:25:11 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: posterchild

So removing this job from those that did it in the government will reduce by how many government employees?


4 posted on 04/20/2017 10:25:17 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: posterchild

Dave Ramsey says you do NOT have to talk to these people. So, don’t!

P.S. And don’t get yourself INTO this kind of trouble in the first place.


5 posted on 04/20/2017 10:26:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Lizavetta

A perfect example!


6 posted on 04/20/2017 10:26:45 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Lizavetta

Beat me to it. They could start with several in congress and Soros.


7 posted on 04/20/2017 10:33:12 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: posterchild

Get (notso) Sharpton first!


8 posted on 04/20/2017 10:33:35 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I got myself into trouble with debt collectors by getting a phone number which happened to belong to a deadbeat prior. For 11 years criminals, neer do wells, sphincters and various other riff raff have been calling for ‘Maria’ who I do not know. If I bother talking to them and tell them they have the wrong number they are typically rude and merely sell my number on down the food chain - they are thieves to each other. I don’t bother talking to them anymore and haven’t in years.

Getting another number may well just trade this problem for a different set.

I do not want my tax dollars wasted on an industry so rife with crooks.


9 posted on 04/20/2017 10:35:29 AM PDT by posterchild (Treade a worme on the tayle, and it must turne agayne.)
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To: posterchild

That’s funny, I regularly get phone calls from people who claim that I owe the IRS money and that a warrant for my arrest will be issued if I don’t stay on the line and talk to the nice lady Arun ... I mean Sandra, right away!


10 posted on 04/20/2017 10:37:27 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I get those also. typically it is a computer generated voice.


11 posted on 04/20/2017 10:40:07 AM PDT by posterchild (Treade a worme on the tayle, and it must turne agayne.)
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To: posterchild

I suspect almost all of these “overdue” taxes are fictional artifacts of IRS computers that have run amok with zero human intervention.

When my dad passed away, I immediately filed paperwork with the IRS and SS to that effect and another form that said as his estate manager that my only fiduciary responsibility to the IRS for his estate was the year he died and the year after when the estate was being settled.

I didn’t bother filing taxes for him either years because his only income was a small amount of SS and the IRS actually owed him a small amount of one-time-only special Obama stimulous money one of those years, but which wasn’t worth the effort to file for.

For several years after that, the place he had been living forwarded me mail that had been addressed to him, and for years afterwards, I received several letters a year genned up by IRS computers showing that he owed taxes and ever-increasing “penalties” and “interest”. I mostly tossed the letters, but would open one occasionally, and before the letters quit coming, the IRS had him owing them hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The letters finally stopped after the home he lived in notified me that they would no longer forward me his mail. Never heard a peep from the IRS after that. Presumably the post office finally kicked their letters back to them with the note that he no longer lived at that address. Lord only knows what they did after that.


12 posted on 04/20/2017 10:40:39 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Please to be giving me your card of credit number so process of removing has been beginning”

All of my scam calls have been Americans.


13 posted on 04/20/2017 10:41:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Red Badger
Obozo hired 50,000 NEW IRS AGENTS!

Where the hell are they?....

Probably on PAID leave with Lois Learner.

14 posted on 04/20/2017 10:44:47 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: catnipman

My wife was helping a blind man and he was a nightmare. No money in savings and living off a large pension. Shopaholic. He was in debt to everyone. When he died, we were cleaning the house. One collector called, we told him that he was dead and there was nothing. You could hear him deflate.
The IRS fought the bank for the assets.


15 posted on 04/20/2017 10:45:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

I get indians.

Anyway this is a BAD move but a GREAT one for crooks.

And is the IRS selling the debt for pennies on the dollar and THEN the credit company can torture you forever?


16 posted on 04/20/2017 10:48:24 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: posterchild
Getting another number may well just trade this problem for a different set.

Had this happen to me. A collection agency started looking for someone out of nowhere. I had the same number for years. I got one of the agencies to stop calling me. About a year later the calls started up again after being sold to another agency. The pricks even started calling my parents in a different city looking for this unknown person. I ditched the landline for cell phone about a year ago. I get a few text messages and phone calls for the previous number holder, but have been able to successfully block them.

17 posted on 04/20/2017 10:53:45 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: posterchild

Yes, it’s vital for the FEDERAL RESERVE SCAM to continue that all those excess FRAUDS (Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Denominators) be sucked back out of the system or WE — the dumb asses way down here in the pecking order — catch on!

Venezuela — AND AMERICA — are suffering under the “myth” of UNBACKED PAPER FIAT CURRENCY and will continue to suffer until this very profitable — for a SELECT FEW – SCAM is halted!

Lori and I delve into this topic in part 2 of our series at the link below. Listen — if you dare!

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As some already know, since mid-2014, we’ve been doing a 30 minute weekly Wednesday
radio show (aka “rant”) with Dr. Lori Wilson out of WLBB in Carrollton, Georgia.
If you have an interest in listening, go to this link http://www.gradickcommunications.com

and the center “PODCASTS” Menu and click on “The Wednesday Show with Dick Bachert”
for the current program.
If you want to listen real-time, the show airs between 8:30 to 9:00 AM, Eastern


18 posted on 04/20/2017 10:55:00 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE 4TH ESTATE HERE HAS BECOME A 5TH COLUMN. DIDN'T WE IMPRISON TOKYO ROSE???)
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To: EVO X

I’ve not had a landline since 1998 but numbers change too frequently to block. It has tapered in recent months.

I’ve been tempted to tell them ‘I go by Mario now. If you want the parts you paid for come get them.’

Recently I’ve been getting spoofed number robocalls from overseas for someone else who presumably had the number before Maria (some older gentleman called a few times for her birthday - I called him back to tell him it wasn’t her number anymore). Either it goes to voicemail (which they don’t realize is voicemail) or I answer and immediately hang up.


19 posted on 04/20/2017 11:00:14 AM PDT by posterchild (Treade a worme on the tayle, and it must turne agayne.)
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That’s interesting. About ten years ago I got a new number for a land line. Soon I began to get calls about someone named Ella. The calls were from some individuals who took bad checks from her (they were usually in tears) and others were from companies and debt collectors.

My number was on her checks and she continued to cash bad checks for years. Then - LOL - I got a call from an operator asking if I would accept charges for a phone call being made from a prison!!! Apparently the authorities had finally caught up with Ella!


20 posted on 04/20/2017 11:02:58 AM PDT by ladyjane
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