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United Airlines Was Right, and Its Numerous Critics Wrong
RCM ^ | 04/18/2017 | John Tamney

Posted on 04/18/2017 11:54:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: CodeToad

Educate yourself. The airport security goon squad United tasked with putting the old man in the hospital cannot make arrests. They can’t carry guns. They’re just a byproduct of Mayor Daley’s monumental corruption.


241 posted on 04/22/2017 8:00:49 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: CodeToad

People should be able to book flights at their convenience in the future. United has vowed to end several practices that virtually guaranteed screw ups.


242 posted on 04/22/2017 8:04:01 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

“The airport security goon squad United tasked with putting the old man in the hospital cannot make arrests. They can’t carry guns.”

Only a child such as yourself equates carrying guns with the right to arrest.


243 posted on 04/22/2017 8:04:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

Smh. You’re the only one equating the two. In fact, the goon squad is not by law permitted to make arrests. (Citizens arrest would be different; the goon squad is not, however, permitted to make official arrests.)

Also, they aren’t allowed to carry guns. If, as some have recklessly suggested, that rule were to be changed, the goon squad still couldn’t make arrests. They are not police officers.


244 posted on 04/22/2017 8:10:03 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: CodeToad

Okay.


245 posted on 04/22/2017 8:27:25 AM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Fantasywriter

” In fact, the goon squad is not by law permitted to make arrests. “

They are State certified police officers and may take people into custody. They have the same authority while on airport property as the Chicago Police Department. They are even listed on arrest records as the arresting officer.

The ONLY difference between an ASO/APO and a CDP officer is that they are not armed due to concerns with public safety of firearms around aircraft.

You really shouldn’t get your information from other children on the Internet.


246 posted on 04/22/2017 8:36:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Fantasywriter

P.S. ASO/APO are firearms qualified by the State and federal government; they just don’t carry.


247 posted on 04/22/2017 8:37:28 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

United Airlines Was Right, and Its Numerous Critics Wrong

This will be settled in court and the frustrations of the flying public will severely punish the pompous asses that run airlines today.


248 posted on 04/22/2017 8:50:53 AM PDT by JayAr36 (The so-called democratic party has morphed into the Despicable Party. Anti-American to the core.)
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To: JayAr36

“flying public will severely punish the pompous asses that run airlines today.”

You mean the flying public that stands in long lines to get strip searched by the TSA? THAT flying public with such obedience to their morals and views???


249 posted on 04/22/2017 8:56:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

You mean the flying public that stands in long lines to get strip searched by the TSA? THAT flying public with such obedience to their morals and views???

Yes those that are charged exorbitant prices to be herded like cattle and then treated like a terrorist.


250 posted on 04/22/2017 8:59:17 AM PDT by JayAr36 (The so-called democratic party has morphed into the Despicable Party. Anti-American to the core.)
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To: CodeToad

You are wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

“Aviation police must meet the same minimum standards as other local cops, according to a city website. That includes passing fitness testing and psychological examinations. Aviation officers can “temporarily detain and take people into custody until Chicago police arrives,” said city spokeswoman Jennifer Martinez. But only Chicago police can file an arrest report, she said. Some training and qualification standards for Chicago police go beyond the state’s minimum standards, and it is unclear what the Aviation Department requires of officers beyond the minimum.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-united-chicago-aviation-police-met-20170413-story.html


251 posted on 04/22/2017 10:35:02 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: CodeToad

“they just don’t carry.”

Let me clear up your confusion.

They CAN’T carry.

“They cannot carry weapons but must be state-certified police officers. Airport police have sought for years to be allowed to carry firearms, but the city has opposed that. Aviation Committee Chairman Ald. Michael Zalewski, 23rd, said the latest incident weakens the push by aviation police to carry guns.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-united-chicago-aviation-police-met-20170413-story.html


252 posted on 04/22/2017 10:38:31 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yup. What has astonished me is the number of knee-jerk reactionaries we have on the ‘right’. I thought the left had cornered that market.


253 posted on 04/22/2017 12:13:16 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: donna

“I would obey the law and leave the plane.

I respect private property”

+1000. Apparently there are a lot of people who think that protesting and throwing a tantrum on board a plane is the way to go.

When this type of behavior is rewarded, expect a lot more of it to occur.

“Could you please stow your bag, sir...” FU, mind your own business. etc.

It will be a freak show free for all....chaos, delays,& increased costs. Brought to you by neo-jerk reactionary yentas with iphones and fakebook accounts


254 posted on 04/22/2017 12:57:01 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

You should consider researching the difference between private property and a Common Carrier. The lawyers who are going to take United to the cleaners know the rules and regulations pertaining to Common Carriers. Most amti-Dao posters, not so much.


255 posted on 04/22/2017 2:56:10 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Throw that all out the window for a minute...Dao was asked by the flight crew to leave the plane. He refused.

Let’s say the reason he was asked to leave was because there was a bomb on board. Would you still support his actions to remain seated and throw a tantrum?

If passengers can defy requests by the flight crew, what does that portend for order and safety on future flights?


256 posted on 04/22/2017 4:10:24 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

When you have to totally distort the facts to make your case, you have no case. The dishonest, thuggish United rep was *supposed* to be looking for “volunteers.” A couple had already expressed interest in the offer, but they wanted a few hundred dollars more.

You see, I can argue the actual facts; I don’t need to change everything to make the point.

Had the airline been operating professionally and in good faith, they’d have negotiated with the willing couple. Instead, they laughed in their faces and proceeded to put Dao in the hospital.

This is where the rules of the Common Carrier come into play. United had an active and legal responsibility to safeguard the health and well-being of their passengers. They must not, by the regulations which govern Common Carriers, act in such a way as to put the lives or health of their passengers at risk. They violated that most basic of rules, and now they will pay...and pay...and pay.

As well they should.


257 posted on 04/22/2017 8:15:30 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; ClearCase_guy; SeekAndFind; HamiltonJay; All

Meanwhile, United continues to get bad publicity, and fun with words by the public like the following:

New United Airlines ad campaign slogans:
1. “Drag and Drop”
2. “We put the ‘hospital’ in hospitality”
3. “Board as a doctor, leave as a patient”
4. “Our prices can’t be beaten, but our passengers can”
5. “We have First Class, Business Class and No Class”
6. “Not enough seating, prepare for a beating”
7. “We treat you like we treat your luggage”
8. “We beat the customer - Not the competition”
9. “And you thought leg room was an issue”
10. “Where voluntary is mandatory”
11. “Fight or flight. We decide”
12. “Now offering one free carry-off”
13. “Beating random customers since 2017”
14. “If our staff needs a seat, we’ll drag you out by your feet”
15. “A bloody good airline”


258 posted on 04/25/2017 12:07:25 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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