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War Cries Drown Out 'America First'
Townhall.com ^ | April 18, 2017 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 04/18/2017 5:03:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Nifster
LOL, From the Walls of Tripoli, you need to retake US history 101.

If the Army or the Navy ever looks on heavens scenes they will fine the streets are guarded by United States Marines

Good Night Chesty Puller where ever you are.

61 posted on 04/18/2017 12:21:58 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb
find NOT fine

Wish we had an edit function

62 posted on 04/18/2017 12:25:17 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

You did not respond to examples of where we intervened in our historyperhaps you ought to at least get the verse correct

To the shores of Tripoli....referring to our first Barbary war. That was in 1805

So again you need to go study US history


63 posted on 04/18/2017 2:12:26 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Wuli

How much does Shareblue pay you per post?


64 posted on 04/18/2017 2:52:16 PM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Lady Heron

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65 posted on 04/18/2017 2:53:12 PM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Luircin

1. I have no idea who or what Shareblue is. 2. I get no financial remuneration from anyone for anything I post.


66 posted on 04/18/2017 3:23:39 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Pull the other one; it’s got bells on.


67 posted on 04/18/2017 3:48:39 PM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Mollypitcher1

“You are dead set against what we need to do to REGAIN our Sovereignty”

You have no idea what YOU are talking about, and may have bought a pig in a poke with Trump.

Trump’s executive orders have been at the margins, not the substance. He has not and will not drain the swamp, and neither will his cabinet appointments. There is enough of it in his own White House.

No he is not a Russian tool. Nor is the globalists tool. He doesn’t have to be. All he has to do is not deconstruct the levers the globalists already have, which is where he stands so far.

Before you keep accusing people of having ideas they do not have, you better wait and say how reality plays out. So far what we have most is political kabuki theater.


68 posted on 04/18/2017 4:07:58 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Nifster

You’re right, since 1776 we (USA) have been the global police. /s


69 posted on 04/18/2017 5:51:40 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Wuli

So far what we have most under Trump is progress in turning this country around from its former path of self destruction under Obama.
President Trump has been in office three months tomorrow, during which time he has not had his full cabinet due to the destructive obsession of the anti-Trump traitors to this country. He is the duly elected PRESIDENT and is due the RESPECT if nothing else for what he has thus far accomplished which is far more than anyone has ever seen in my lifetime.
When you suggest our president is a “pig in a poke” you show your ignorance as well as your obvious preference that Clinton should have won.


70 posted on 04/19/2017 5:49:44 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

I did not vote for Clinton. I held my nose and voted for Trump. But having voted for him does not shut my thinking cap off, nor make me cheer at what so far is the surface of things more than the substance. Trump has a lot yet to prove and I will reserve my judgement meanwhile, not applaud just to applaud.


71 posted on 04/19/2017 6:04:33 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

You can stop your badmouthing of our president while you wait.
I don’t expect you ever to appreciate what he does as you “held your nose” to vote for him.
You don’t see the releasing of our energy from the stranglehold of the Obama adm.? You don’t see EPA being brought into line? You don’t see a Constitutionalist on the Supreme Court? You don’t see our Military released from the bondage of micro management? You don’t see Law and Order returning to this country that had spent the last eight years ignoring or breading our own laws just to “feel” good? You don’t see jobs comingg back to America that the former occupant of the White House said were “gone forever?” You don’t see the coal industry coming back to life and jobs for the rust belt making the American people proud to be working again. The coal industry is coming our of bankruptcy as is our steel industry and a mud puddle on your farm is not going to be subject to the government rules and regulations regarding lakes and rivers any more.
Obviously you have no thinking cap. All of the above, and more, has happened within the three months of the Trump presidency. AND illegal immigration is DOWN ENORMOUSLY and DEPORTATIONS are UP enormously since President Trump is in office and Jeff Sessions is enforcing the law.
You expect a perfect world with the wave of a magic wand. Go back to your dreamland and sleep on until you have something worthwhile to say.


72 posted on 04/19/2017 6:19:46 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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“You don’t see the releasing of our energy from the stranglehold of the Obama adm.? “

Obamacare and Common Core are still the law of the land.

“You don’t see EPA being brought into line?”

*On climate change, and very little else.

“You don’t see a Constitutionalist on the Supreme Court?”

Seems like a good move, but so did other seemingly good picks other GOP POTUSes made. Time will tell.

“You don’t see our Military released from the bondage of micro management?”

Second good move. However, in the same breath Trump saluted the new dictator of Turkey (one of the engineers of the destabilization of Syria, leading to the rise of ISIS there, and while that dictator and the Mullahs of Iran plot the death of Kurdish independence movements in northern Syria). He also is playing with danger sucking up to the Saudis - the other main backer of violent Sunni Islamist outfits in Syria and Iraq, as well as global funds supplier for the spread of uber-radical-Sunni-Wahabi fundamentalist Mosques in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Central Asia, North Africa, Europe and the U.S. Trump is playing into the globalists agendas in the Middle East, when the violence there is largely proxy wars between radical fundamentalist Wahabi-Sunni of Saudi Arabia and the radical fundamentalist Shia Mullahs of Tehran. We have mistakenly always been good friends to the Saudis, while they have never been our friends from their view. Trump has the same Military and State folks that have been ignoring Saudi treachery for 40 years.

“You don’t see Law and Order returning to this country that had spent the last eight years ignoring or breading our own laws just to “feel” good?”

Arresting illegals ONLY if they’ve committed other crimes. It’s a singular issue, not “law and order” writ large.

“You don’t see jobs comingg back to America that the former occupant of the White House said were “gone forever?” “

Most all of them have to do with economic conditions and outlook of companies, not a single policy or reform by Trump or the GOP Congress, yet. The phrase “under president x........x” is vastly over played, both in positive and negative terms, depending on the president and the news source, for events that often have little directly to do with the occupant of the White House at the time.

“You don’t see the coal industry coming back to life and jobs for the rust belt making the American people proud to be working again. “

Natural Gas is replacing and is going to continue to replace coal, EPA policy change or not. It’s cheaper, cleaner, we have some of the world’s largest reserves of it, and can move it in pipelines instead of rail cars. It’s another change that sounds much better than it will be, in the end. It was the right change, but again the gains from it are vastly over promoted.

The biggest threat to this country is the giant progressive edifice of the deep, permanent regulatory state and the powers abdicated to it by Congress. Trump like all GOP POTUS only seeks to manage it his way, not tear it down and out it under the daily thumb of Congress, not allowed to rule on its own.

Before Obama and during Obama we have a DOJ that uses its massive power to shakedown the corporate world, failing to ever prove, in court, the charges they make from which they try to obtain “settlements” - no trials, no presentation of evidence from both sides, no court-judge or jury weighing the evidence and determining if the DOJ is right or not. And the “settlements” amount to agreements on future action of the companies as well, which other companies are inclined to follow just to avoid the DOJ dragnet, and those agreements amount to de facto making of federal law, by no act of Congress whatsoevwer. More abdication to the executive.

We have a regulatory state given powers by Congress to in many cases act not merely as claimant against someone, but judge, jury, prosecutor and pronouncing sentence.

Trump does not see it. He just wants to do what all GOP POTUSes think they should do - merely manage it “better”. In the end, yes, changes will be made, but the Progressive’s great accomplishment, the dictatorship of the “experts” managing the permanent regulatory state will still be in place and still untouched as to its authority abdicated to it by Congress.

Taxes? Major reforms? No. Reshuffling of whose ox gets gored more and whose gets gored less.

Economy. Trump is not a true free enterprise person when it comes to the government. He is acting just like the Chinese - a nationalist mercantilist managed economy. Again, not trying to eliminate the edifice of being intentionally benefited or punished by Washington D.C., just changing who that is.


73 posted on 04/19/2017 7:15:56 AM PDT by Wuli
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