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Delta figured out how to capitalize on United’s failure but it probably won’t help you very much
Hotair ^ | 04/15/2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 04/15/2017 8:29:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The fallout for United Airlines from their attempt at “involuntary rescheduling and attitude adjustment” for a doctor on one of their flights continues in the public relations department and other airlines seem to be responding. In terms of the endless What Went Wrong discussion taking place on every cable news network, the biggest question which kept being asked was, why didn’t they offer the passengers more money to leave voluntarily? That turns out to be a somewhat complicated question (more on that below) but the folks at Delta were clearly watching. Less than a week after the incident they’ve announced that if you wind up on one of their overbooked flights you might be getting an offer for significantly more cash to wait for the next plane. (Honolulu Star Advertiser)

Delta is letting employees offer customers almost $10,000 in compensation to give up seats on overbooked flights, hoping to avoid an uproar like the one that erupted at United after a passenger was dragged off a jet.

In an internal memo obtained today by The Associated Press, Delta Air Lines said gate agents can offer up to $2,000, up from a previous maximum of $800, and supervisors can offer up to $9,950, up from $1,350.

United is reviewing its own policies, including incentives for customers, and will announce any actions by April 30, a spokeswoman said. The airline would not disclose its current compensation limit.

That’s a significant step up in compensation and if United had been doing that last week we probably wouldn’t be in the current situation. It’s probably an overstatement to claim that the beaten down passenger will wind up being a majority owner of United, but it’s obviously going to cost them a lot more than jacking up the offer on the table to get someone to voluntarily get off the plane. A three digit number like $800 is nothing to sneeze at, but it’s obviously not enough to get most travelers to budge. By comparison, for the vast majority of workers in the country who make less than $100K per year, a sudden cash infusion of ten grand is a serious incentive.

But can they actually do this? Let’s remember that one of the arguments being put forth this week was that the federal government barred the airline from offering much more money. That was explained in this article from the Harvard Business Review.

But the DOT has adopted a rule that encourages involuntary bumping — which is undoubtedly less popular with flyers than voluntary bumping. The regulation specifies that if a passenger is involuntarily bumped, airlines have to pay a penalty amounting to 200%–400% (depending on the delay length) of the one-way fare that they paid with a maximum cap of $1,350. This provides an incentive for airlines to bump passengers who paid the least amount for their ticket, often the poorest travelers on the plane.

So it’s not so much of a “law” as a “rule” from the Department of Transportation. (Which winds up having the same effect as a law, which is a topic for another day.) But let’s assume they can actually offer these levels of cash to get you off the plane. Will you benefit? Possibly, but let’s not start spending that money just yet. Keep in mind that the airlines would be insane to just announce right off the bat that they were offering ten thousand dollars for four people to take the next flight. They would be flooded with offers and find themselves dealing with even more angry passengers who didn’t get a shot at the sudden windfall. Also, they’d wind up paying much more than they would likely have to. (A poor business model in anyone’s book.) Odds are that they will continue to start the “bidding” at four or five hundred dollars and then bump it up incrementally until someone takes the bait. That will probably come at a level well below $10K and the passengers will effectively be put in a game show environment where they keep waiting for the bid to reach their level of comfort while hoping nobody else takes it first. So you might get something better if it happens to you, but the odds are lower and the payout probably will be as well.

The larger question is if this horribly handled debacle is going to actually make the airlines rethink many of their policies and make things better for passengers. Will they stop overbooking? How about bringing back more leg room and amenities? Don’t get your hopes up. Chris Sagers at the Washington Post repeats the same gloom and doom message I’ve been preaching about this subject for a while now. None of this matters and not much is likely to change in terms of airline service beyond some possibly higher compensation for buying seats back.

The reason is the same for why any of our country’s other oligopolistic powerhouses can treat their fellow Americans with such crass indifference: Shareholders don’t really care about consumer opinion or even a company’s larger public image. They care about profits. If there is no competitor to whom consumers can turn, who really cares what they think?

The 2013 merger of American Airlines and U.S. Airways — the biggest and last in a series of dramatic consolidations that federal regulators did little to stop — left the United States with only four major airlines. The overwhelming weight of empirical evidence shows that wherever fewer carriers compete in individual airline routes, fares go up. No factor can fully explain it except market power.

Chris is right. You have no leverage with Delta, United and the few other remaining domestic air carriers. They’ve been allowed to merge into such a small pool of “competition” that they can pretty much do what they want and they know you’ll still have to come to them the next time you have to get anywhere. I have no doubt that United would have preferred not to go through this humiliating exercise and all of the bad jokes being made about them, but they are still in business to make a profit. Doing things differently in a way which might make air travel less unpleasant for you or prevent you from getting bumped off a flight would detract from their bottom line. Your protests about the horrible service aren’t going to change their profit margins measurably so they have zero incentive to improve.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled packing for your next flight. And there’s probably a fifty-fifty chance it will be on United.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlines; aviation; dal; delta; ual; unitedairlines
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To: Boomer

I wonder if one of the officers said, “Everything was fine until dickless here busted the guy’s face.”


21 posted on 04/16/2017 2:52:02 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The author raises an excellent point, but I disagree with his statement that consolidation in the airline industry has been a major factor in declining service. The reality is that the airline industry has been operating at or near capacity for years, and it really wouldn't matter even if there were 50 major airlines instead of just four. Sure, you'd have more options -- but every one of those airlines would be overbooking their flights and cramming passengers into packed aircraft.

The real reason these airlines get away with treating passengers like crap is that their passengers find the whole business model -- minus the Vietnamese take-out process, for sure -- perfectly acceptable. Let's face it: most American airline passengers are notoriously cheap when it comes to chasing the lowest fares, and these airlines would have been out of business years ago if that were not the case.

22 posted on 04/16/2017 2:54:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
If every passenger stopped flying United there wouldn't be any other airline for them to fly -- because the entire industry is operating at or over capacity.

The bottom line is that other modes of long-distance transportation are the only real alternatives, and for most people that means Amtrak, Greyhound buses, or driving. I don't think any of those are viable options for most people, especially when you see a case like this United incident on a packed airplane for a flight between two cities that are only 4-5 hours apart by car.

23 posted on 04/16/2017 2:58:17 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Spktyr

I heard a radio report on this topic the other day, and the airline expert they interviewed said you are more likely to get bumped from a Southwest flight than from any other airline in the industry today. Go figure.


24 posted on 04/16/2017 3:01:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: SeekAndFind

The US based carriers are little more than greyhound buses with wings on them. People are treated like live stock. They nickel and dime one to death instead of charging enough up front. I have been a frequent flier for over 30 years and if the quality continues to erode as much as it has in the last 10-15 years it will make a 12 hour drive seem like a pleasure


25 posted on 04/16/2017 4:00:14 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: IncPen

Hodar the airlines issue voucher instead of cash because they know they are virtually worthless and probably 99% percent of them will never be redeemed


26 posted on 04/16/2017 4:02:04 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: Kartographer
My brother had a bad United experience. He was flying back from Turkey, through Rome and United screwed up his boarding passes. He was supposed to be selected for additional screening, but the ticket agent gave him a boarding pass without the "quad SSSS" code. He processed through Customs, and TSA in Chicago and boarded his plane. Then the gate agent storms on board and told him to get off the plane. When he asked why the guy threatens him with arrest. When he gets off the plane he is met by TSA holding a quad SSSS boarding pass that United printed up trying to cover their tracks. They rescreened him and he barely made the flight.

All of this was because United screwed up and wanted to shift blame onto the customer.

27 posted on 04/16/2017 5:30:40 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SeekAndFind

Simple solution

Sell all tickets as either refundable, non-refundable or standby (fliers’ choice)

Non-refundable tickets are also non-bumpable. The airline gets revenue if you show up or not.

Refundable tickets are subject to bumping - you are not committing to taking the seat and the airline is not committed to seating you.

Standby tickets get a seat on a fully booked flight only if there is a no-show (refundable or not) and get a seat within 24 hours of the original flight.

The pool of non revenue seats shrinks and makes bumping less likely.


28 posted on 04/16/2017 5:31:45 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: TBP

Here’s how it will help a lot: Say you’re going to a funeral. 10 grand wouldn’t be enough compensation for you to miss the funeral. But it would be enough compensation for the leisure traveler who’s more than happy to cough up the seat that enables you to stay in yours. I LOVE capitalism.


29 posted on 04/16/2017 5:37:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: SeekAndFind


30 posted on 04/16/2017 5:46:43 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best long term prep for conservatives: Have big families & out-breed the illegals & muslims.)
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To: Kartographer
” livestock haulers”?

My husband and I are sitting here laughing.

31 posted on 04/16/2017 6:33:14 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Which is true, but it usually isn’t much of an issue because:

1. In absolute numbers, not many people get bumped.
2. SWA usually has another flight leaving to go in the same direction shortly.
3. They still pay (and pay well beyond industry standard) for the inconvenience incurred.
4. They’re smart enough to do the bumping before boarding.
5. They’re not afraid to put you on another airline as a last resort.


32 posted on 04/16/2017 12:09:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Yes and if Eastern goes out of business... Oh wait... they did! So did PanAm, Braniff and a host of other airlines. And somehow things just kept on ticking along.

If United goes out of business (which I hope it does not) something will fill the void.

There are no business "To big to fail" and no business that is irreplaceable.

That is the nature of capitalism

33 posted on 04/16/2017 1:09:15 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: wintertime

34 posted on 04/16/2017 8:06:10 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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