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Hmmmm! All I can say is---------Have at it folks. I know there are a lot of varying opinions on this whole fiasco so get after it.
1 posted on 04/12/2017 7:30:31 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

You have no right to a fair and impartial trial if you oppose the government.

Ask the bikers in Waco.

Or a dozen other cases.


2 posted on 04/12/2017 7:38:52 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: rktman; LucyT

Ping...


3 posted on 04/12/2017 7:40:25 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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Jack-booted thugs gotta stomp.


6 posted on 04/12/2017 7:52:13 AM PDT by 'smith
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“Do you want tar and featherings of judges? Because this is how you get tar and featherings.”


8 posted on 04/12/2017 7:57:31 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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Somebody needs to check out Judge Navarro’s records on THE HAMMER and in “incidental surveillance”.

Let’s find out the truth about how the American “justice” system really works.


10 posted on 04/12/2017 8:05:12 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: rktman
BLM at Bundy Ranch. (Army wannabees.)


13 posted on 04/12/2017 8:23:11 AM PDT by Oatka
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The BLM ‘force’ intended to kill those unarmed people in that gulch. There was no traffic on the overpasses above them, nor was there aircraft/new helicopters.

Besides, the BLM goons had been shooting the Bundy cattle and destroying the water collection spots where the cattle grazed. Copters and equipment was seen burying cattle.


14 posted on 04/12/2017 8:26:08 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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I cannot get past the part where Bundy and his family think that we, the American people, should let them squat on public lands, grazing his cattle, without paying for it. Whether we want to support or not, the public ownership of the land, it is a fact, and they had a contract originally to graze their cattle on that land. They then chose to stop paying for that. Any discussion of personal rights, the ownership of the land, are difficult to get to win the whole act is based on theft. Theft by the Bundys against the American people. Other ranchers pay to use the public land and had the Bundys not wanted to pay any more and not graze their cattle on that land, someone else could have, giving us the revenue for the use of our public land. This is staffed. Simple, corporate welfare if we want to talk about it in a business sense. The bunnies never own any of the slim, they never had a title to any of this land, I believe the family ownership of their own land there in that areatraced back 40 years.


15 posted on 04/12/2017 8:28:06 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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Background information which may or may not be reliable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

And a small summary:

The Bundy standoff was an armed confrontation between protesters and law enforcement that developed from a 20-year legal dispute between the United States Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and Cliven Bundy over unpaid grazing fees on federally owned land in southeastern Nevada.

The dispute started in 1993, when, in protest against changes to grazing rules, Bundy declined to renew his permit for cattle grazing on BLM-administered lands near Bunkerville, Nevada. According to the BLM, Bundy continued to graze his cattle on public lands without a permit. In 1998, Bundy was prohibited by the United States District Court for the District of Nevada from grazing his cattle on an area of land later called the Bunkerville Allotment. In July 2013, U.S. District Judge Lloyd D. George ordered that Bundy refrain from trespassing on federally administered land in the Gold Butte area of Clark County.

On March 27, 2014, 145,604 acres of federal land in Clark County were temporarily closed for the “capture, impound, and removal of trespass cattle”. BLM officials and law enforcement rangers began a roundup of such livestock on April 5, and an arrest was made the next day. On April 12, a group of protesters, some of them armed, advanced on what the BLM described as a “cattle gather.” Sheriff Doug Gillespie negotiated with Bundy and newly confirmed BLM director Neil Kornze, who elected to release the cattle and de-escalate the situation. As of the end of 2015, Bundy continued to graze his cattle on Federal land and had not paid the fees.


16 posted on 04/12/2017 8:30:03 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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“In toto, only two days were spent on the defense.  Out of that, the jury was permitted to be in the courtroom for fifteen minutes.  The prosecution, on the other hand, consumed over five weeks of courtroom time to make their case.  And that is only part of what looks, smells, and feels like a case of injustice – perhaps with prosecutorial and judicial misconduct added in for good measure.

Court spectators such as John Lamb, an unrelated party who traveled from Montana to watch the trial, spoke each day on a live Facebook video, after proceedings had adjourned, with notes in hand.  Every afternoon, Lamb’s recounting of the trial day became more disturbing as he reported that even the most basic rights were ignored in the federal courtroom in Las Vegas.  Judge Gloria Navarro told one defendant he had only three rights in her courtroom: to plead guilty, to testify on his own behalf, and to appeal his conviction, according to Lamb.  Meanwhile, witnesses for the prosecution – most of them government agents – could remain in the courtroom before their own testimony.  Defense witnesses were told to leave. 

Other spectators confirmed Lamb’s account and more.  Many of those in the courtroom carried pocket-sized Constitutions; Judge Navarro subsequently ruled that the Constitution was not allowed in the courtroom unless it was turned face-down.  On April 10, a man named Neil Wampler was escorted out of the courtroom and his things collected by a U.S. marshal because he had a copy of the U.S. Constitution in his pocket that was visible to the judge.”


17 posted on 04/12/2017 8:30:23 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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Lavoy Finicum?


30 posted on 04/12/2017 11:20:58 AM PDT by Twinkie ( MSM and DEMOCRAT PARTY are DEAD)
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I know there are a lot of varying opinions on this whole fiasco so get after it.

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I suspect opinions are all over the board. Here is an older article giving
some details of the situation over time. How accurate it is and what today’s
positions are I have no idea.

http://www.factandmyth.com/conspiracy-theory/cliven-bundys-cattle-and-the-federal-land-grab
Fact Check – The Bundy Ranch Cattle & The BLM


34 posted on 04/12/2017 2:16:05 PM PDT by deport
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