Vanity: Who is the United Airlines Passenger? Is he really a Doctor?
Because we all know that if he isn't a doctor, it's OK to be Tased and beaten up by thug airport rent-a-cops, right?
Posted on 04/11/2017 7:29:42 AM PDT by narses
Did you watch the video? I just watched it because you made me think I was bats.
There was no nasty scene. The man was sitting quietly in his seat. A guy, not in uniform came up, reached over, bodily lifted him out of his seat. The passenger started to scream as he was manhandled, passengers head hit the seat rest and he was dragged lifelessly up the aisle.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/world/asia/united-airlines-passenger-dragged-china.html?_r=0
Sorry watched it “again”
This guy is “real” per my MIL, who is a nurse who retired from the hospital in Elizabethtown, KY, where Dr. Dao is from. She knew about the drugs for sex thing from years ago, and she knows the wife as well. Worked with her some, said she was really sweet.
So much for the conspiracy theory creation at work here.
In what way are they keeping us safe? Look at the data. They are not keeping us safe. Its a scam and a sham and a payola scheme.
http://fortune.com/2015/06/02/the-tea-airport-security-problems/
According to the report, during 2015: TSA screened more than 708 million passengers, a 6.1 percent increase from 2014. ... Of the 70 tests, TSA Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) failed to detect the weapons and explosives 67 times, a 95.7 percent failure rate. That’s certainly an impressive failure on TSA’s part.Mar 14, 2016
Do TSA’s impressive 2015 statistics indicate success or failure ...
https://travelersunited.org/.../do-tsas-impressive-2015-statistics-indicate-success-or-failur...
You out to move away from the stream of consciousness writing style; it’s not doing you any favors.
My point in describing him as an elderly, Asian doctor was not to suggest he should have been exempt from a lottery if a lottery existed. It was a reflection of my belief that the elderly deserve our courtesy, and that the other facts we have been told about him do not suggest he was a big threat.
The fact that he and his wife offered at first to volunteer but demurred when he was told the next flight was the next afternoon suggests to me he is willing to accept inconvenience in the common good. I also think that manhandling elderly & children is especially heinous because both are relatively weaker. Additionally a concussion is much more dangerous in the elderly population.
I think you have exposed your own prejudices by jumping to conclusions & seeing elitism where I meant none.
He sounds like he has a real lack of morals in his past, but that is NOTHING TO DO with what happened to him. United at fault. When you treat passengers horribly, some of them wont be choir boys.
Sounds like a plan : )
I know they fail tests. However, they are really functioning as a deterrent to terrorists. Terrorists shift to non guarded targets like schools, gay nightclubs, shopping markets etc.
I dont like airport security any more than the next person but I prefer the deterrent to the other option
I prefer methods that work rather than methods that cause tremendous inconvenience, long lines and soak up $.
The Israeli’s have an excellent screening record based on profiling, dogs and watching behavior but we couldn’t model on them, because we can’t profile. Political correctness trumps good sense and results. Just like the great good of unlimited immigration trumps the people who get raped or murdered in Germany and Sweden.
I am tired of having a pig’s ear sold to me as the finest silk. My home airport is Newark and the TSA staff there are indescribable. It is like the asylum where the patients are in charge.
We need airport security by professionals who are doing their job by methods that work as is the case in other Nations across the globe. Settling for what we have in place now, because you think it keeps you safe is fooling yourself and delaying the conversation and changes that would allow travelers to actually be safer.
Nice.
Sorry that we are not communicating. Perhaps we will have better luck another time. We can agree completely about the main point - the whole thing stunk.
The first post you responded to #6, I was pushing back on the idea that if he had once been convicted of a salacious incident then it didn’t matter what occurred during this incident.
I don’t like the technique of attacking the victim rather than addressing the incident on its own merits. I chose those adjectives because they were what was seen by the employees that interacted with him. I would have said a slight middle aged Chicano woman just as easily. Basically a nonthreatening individual who is caught in a problem that I may be able to solve if I think creatively.
The guy is a complete jerk.
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All these commenters giving legal advice about this airline passenger sueing the airlines should go back to flipping burgers. The airline ticket is part of a contract, and there are provisions in that contract that allow the airline to bump passengers. There are federal rules and regulations that allow airlines to remove passengers. The level of force used was a direct result of the passenger refusing to comply with the lawful orders of the flight crew and security personnel. The information about the passenger’s history and mental state is directly relevant because it explains why he acted as he did and why force was needed.
Once this passenger became belligerent the airline had no choice but to remove him while the plane was still on the ground. If the plane had taken off and the passenger got belligerent with the flight crew in midair then all these people shedding crocodile tears for this guy would be screaming at the airline for not removing him before takeoff.
Bottom line is this guy brought it upon himself when he decided to ignore the lawful (even if unpopular, at the time) order of the flight crew and security.
Finally someone who gets it.
Seems like maybe you need to go back to the books. Judge Napolitano & Professor John Banzhaf, from the George Washington University Law School beg to disagree with your assessment.
Battered Passenger Should Definitely Sue! Why United Could Be In Deep Legal Trouble After Viral Video
by Elura Nanos | 11:10 am, April 10th, 2017
Professor John Banzhaf, from the George Washington University Law School, believes that the passenger has a very good case and that the force used to remove the doctor may even be considered excessive in this scenario.
“In addition to the tort of simply removing a passenger even if the force to do so was reasonable, it might be argued that the force used here was excessive,” Banzhaf told LawNewz.com “In other words, even if somehow the law permitted a passenger to be removed by force under these circumstances, it would appear that the force used here was excessive, and that the airline acquiesced in the use of that excessive force.”
http://lawnewz.com/uncategorized/battered-passenger-should-definitely-sue-why-united-could-be-in-deep-legal-trouble/
Well I’m arguing that when three cops tell you to move your a$$, mister you do it. Sue them later if you want, but this guy threw a tantrum. He behaved like a child. Children get spanked and so do childish adults.
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