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To: Mears
God almighty——I dreaded hearing the news this morning——this is worse than I expected.

A single frigate against at least two AEGIS destroyers. Symbolic face saving gesture.

19 posted on 04/07/2017 8:52:05 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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To: pepsi_junkie

“Symbolic face saving gesture. “

I certainly hope you’re right.

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24 posted on 04/07/2017 8:54:41 AM PDT by Mears
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To: pepsi_junkie

All part of the play. Trump probably even told the Russkies to do it, for show.


32 posted on 04/07/2017 8:56:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pepsi_junkie

Window dressing...


36 posted on 04/07/2017 8:57:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

One might reflexively think so, but the anti-ship variant of the Kalibr cruise missile is nothing to f**k with. As the anti-ship variant of the Kalibr, code named SIZZLER, closes on a ship, it goes into evasive maneuvering, accelerates up to Mach 3 and dives to an altitude of about 15-20 feet. Oh, by the way, it has a range of about 250 to 400 miles and carries a shaped warhead of almost 1,000 lbs.

I wouldn’t want to be on ANY ship with a round like that inbound...


41 posted on 04/07/2017 9:01:18 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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43 posted on 04/07/2017 9:02:16 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: pepsi_junkie
Type: Frigate

Displacement:

Standard: 3,620 tons

Full: 4,035 tons[citation needed]

Length: 124.8 m (409 ft)

Beam: 15.2 m (50 ft)

Draught: 4.2 m (14 ft)

Propulsion:

2 shaft COGAG;

2 DS-71 cruise gas turbines 8,450 shp (6,300 kW);

2 DT-59 boost gas turbines 22,000 shp (16,000 kW) ;

Total: 60,900 shp (45,400 kW)

Speed: 30 kn (56 km/h; 35 mph)

Range: 4,850 nmi (8,980 km; 5,580 mi) at 14 kn (26 km/h; 16 mph)

Endurance: 30 days

Complement: 200

Sensors and processing systems:

Air search radar: Fregat M2EM

Surface search radar: 3Ts-25E Garpun-B, MR-212/201-1, Nucleus-2 6000A

Fire control radar: JSC 5P-10E Puma FCS, 3R14N-11356 FCS, MR-90 Orekh SAM FCS

Electronic warfare & decoys:

EW Suite: TK-25E-5;

Countermeasures:

4 × KT-216

Armament:

1 × 100 mm A-190 Arsenal naval gun

1 × 8 UKSK VLS cells for Kalibr and 3M55 Oniks

2 × 12 3S90M Shtil-1 VLS cells

2 × AK-630M CIWS

8 × Igla-1E (SA-16)

2 х 2 533 mm torpedo tubes

1 × RBU-6000 rocket launcher

Aircraft carried: 1 Ka-27PL or Ka-31 helicopter

49 posted on 04/07/2017 9:03:57 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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53 posted on 04/07/2017 9:05:32 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Type: Guided missile destroyer
Displacement:
Fully loaded:
Flight I: 8,315 t (8,184 long tons; 9,166 short tons)
Flight II: 8,400 t (8,300 long tons; 9,300 short tons)
Flight IIA: 9,200 t (9,100 long tons; 10,100 short tons)
Flight III: 9,800 t (9,600 long tons; 10,800 short tons)[3]
Length:
Flights I and II: 505 ft (154 m)
Flight IIA: 509 ft (155 m)
Beam: 66 ft (20 m)
Draft: 30.5 ft (9.3 m)
Installed power: 3 × Allison AG9140 Generators (2,500 kW each, 440 V)
Propulsion:
4 × General Electric LM2500 gas turbines each generating 26,250 bhp (19,570 kW);[4]
coupled to two shafts, each driving a five-bladed reversible controllable-pitch propeller;
Total output: 105,000 bhp (78,000 kW)
Speed: In excess of 30 kn (56 km/h; 35 mph)
Range: 4,400 nmi (8,100 km) at 20 kn (37 km/h; 23 mph)
Boats & landing
craft carried: 2 × rigid hull inflatable boats
Complement:
Flight I: 303 total[5]
Flight IIA: 23 officers, 300 enlisted[5]
Sensors and
processing systems:
AN/SPY-1D 3D Radar
AN/SPS-67(V)2 Surface Search Radar
AN/SPS-73(V)12 Surface Search Radar
AN/SPG-62 Fire Control Radar
AN/SQS-53C Sonar Array
AN/SQR-19 Tactical Towed Array Sonar
AN/SQQ-28 LAMPS III Shipboard System
Electronic warfare
& decoys:
AN/SLQ-32(V)2 Electronic Warfare System
AN/SLQ-25 Nixie Torpedo Countermeasures
MK 36 MOD 12 Decoy Launching System
AN/SLQ-39 CHAFF Buoys
Armament:
Missiles:
Flight I: 90 cell Mk 41 Vertical Launching System (VLS)
Flights II and IIA: 96 cell Mk 41 VLS
Tomahawk cruise missile
RIM-66M Standard medium range SAM (has an ASuW mode)[citation needed]
RIM-161 Standard Ballistic missile defense missile for Aegis BMD (15 ships as of March 2009[6])
RIM-162 ESSM (4 per cell) SAM (DDG-79 onward)
RUM-139 Vertical Launch ASROC
RIM-174A Standard ERAM added in 2011
2 × Mk 141 Harpoon Missile Launcher SSM (not in Flight IIA units)[7]
Guns:
1 × 5-inch (127-mm)/54 Mk-45 Mod 1/2 (lightweight gun) (DDG-51 to -80); or
1 × 5-inch (127-mm)/62 Mk-45 mod 4 (lightweight gun) (DDG-81 onwards)
2 × (DDG-51 to -84); or
1 × (DDG-85 onwards) 20 mm Phalanx CIWS
2 × 25 mm M242 Bushmaster cannons
Torpedoes:
2 × Mark 32 triple torpedo tubes (six Mk-46 or Mk-50 torpedoes, Mk-54 in the near future)
Aircraft carried:
Flights I and II: None
Flight IIA onwards: up to two MH-60R Seahawk LAMPS III helicopters
Aviation facilities:
Flights I and II: Flight deck only, but LAMPS III electronics installed on landing deck for coordinated DDG-51/helo ASW operations
Flight IIA onwards: Flight deck and enclosed hangars for two MH-60R LAMPS III helicopters


57 posted on 04/07/2017 9:06:13 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: pepsi_junkie

“Symbolic face saving gesture.”
Precisely. They HAD to show SOME response.


100 posted on 04/07/2017 9:40:14 AM PDT by Tucker39 (In giving us The Christ, God gave us the ONE thing we desperately NEEDED; a Savior.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

That’s what I’m thinking.


101 posted on 04/07/2017 9:41:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

A single frigate against at least two AEGIS destroyers. Symbolic face saving gesture.


Yeah, if the tin pot czar wants to saber rattle he is going lose.


106 posted on 04/07/2017 9:47:12 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: pepsi_junkie

A single frigate?

Or a single frigate and an unknown number of submarines?


112 posted on 04/07/2017 10:01:31 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: pepsi_junkie

Kalibr SS-N-27 supersonic cruise missiles (NATO code name is “Sizzler”)

These could make it interesting.


115 posted on 04/07/2017 10:05:03 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Precisely my thought. If the Russians were ticked, they’d have sent half a fleet.


167 posted on 04/07/2017 2:41:52 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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