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The pursuit of Trump may have caught the Obama White House
The Washington Post ^ | April 4, 2017 | By Ed Rogers

Posted on 04/04/2017 3:00:04 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

It is said that Watergate wasn’t about the crime, but about the coverup. Well, at least in the Watergate scandal, there was a proper crime — specifically, the break-in and wiretapping. The frenzy has created a scandal without perpetrators or a crime. There is a sense that Washington is on the brink, but no one can say on the brink of what.

Rice has a history of a strained relationship with the truth, and for a national security adviser, she has, at times, flown close to the partisan political flame. So, what was going on? Why did she do it? And with whom, in the government and the media, did she share the information?

Multiple senators are now demanding her testimony. There could have been crimes committed and a real scandal could develop, so you can bet the full story will be slow to emerge. It appears that Rice has issued the standard denials. And her defenders on Capitol Hill and in the media will do all they can to distract and demand that there is nothing to see here. Democrats and their media allies will continue to make baseless allegations, hoping that the Russia investigations will somehow deliver for them and become this president’s Watergate.

The result so far? Competing outrage. Just as Democrats are pursuing L-TACs (links, ties, associations or contacts) in search of a crime, the Obama White House’s national security adviser has now landed as one of the ones who will have to answer for her actions under oath. Washington is as scandal-primed as I’ve ever seen it — there is a lot of smoke right now, but no clear fire. So the noise and finger-pointing will continue. And I have no idea who is winning.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: election2016; obama; prison; susanrice; trumpwiretaps; wiretapping
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1 posted on 04/04/2017 3:00:04 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

From the Post?!?! Wow!


2 posted on 04/04/2017 3:00:52 PM PDT by Benno van Archimboldi
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To: Benno van Archimboldi

If it’s from the Post, you know there is some serious sh** about to go down and they’re doing their best to regain some credibility.


3 posted on 04/04/2017 3:05:04 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

BOTH the crime AND the coverup.


4 posted on 04/04/2017 3:07:19 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They are trying to pin it solely on Rice. It’s much bigger.


5 posted on 04/04/2017 3:07:47 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This could be bigger than Bridgegate?


6 posted on 04/04/2017 3:08:10 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Benno van Archimboldi

yeah huh ?????


7 posted on 04/04/2017 3:08:22 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Correct. I said yesterday that this was going to be a mountain of excrement hitting a wind tunnel. Only the beginning. Stay tuned.


8 posted on 04/04/2017 3:09:09 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Not to parrot the other comments, but I am absolutely shocked the Washington Post published this article.

Huge.


9 posted on 04/04/2017 3:09:35 PM PDT by LouisianaJoanof Arc (Proud Horrible Deplorable that wants HRC prosecuted)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes, they may have broken numerous laws, and have committed numerous felonies, but they had to do it because Donald Trump had won the election.


10 posted on 04/04/2017 3:10:01 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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This is a good time for the agencies to clean house.


11 posted on 04/04/2017 3:10:27 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is Rogers the WaPo’s token conservative?


12 posted on 04/04/2017 3:13:56 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The hunter becomes the hunted.


13 posted on 04/04/2017 3:14:34 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: LouisianaJoanof Arc
A WaPo blog. Most of the writers are admitted partisan hacks. They have a few on the right "for balance."

Ed Rogers is a contributor to the PostPartisan blog, a political consultant and a veteran of the Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush White Houses and several national campaigns.

14 posted on 04/04/2017 3:15:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Steely Tom

I cannot remember which presstitute said it, but one of them admitted bias back in the late summer, saying ‘we have to do this because Trump would be so bad for the country’. Does anyone else remember this? And who it was exactly?


15 posted on 04/04/2017 3:16:14 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

If we had Real Americans or even Real Statesmen in the Leadership, these people would have been LOCKED UP BY CONGRESS IMMEDIATELY until ALL THE ANSWERS WERE PUBLIC!!!

I highly recommend EVERYONE look up the Hinds Precedents,(Google) it is a Photocopy of the records, so a little hard to read, but WELL worth it!!!

Congress has ALL the power in washington, the executive and judicial branch operate according to the whims of CONGRESS!

“U.S. CODE
TITLE 2—THE CONGRESS
CHAPTER 6—CONGRESSIONAL AND COMMITTEE PROCEDURE; INVESTIGATIONS
Sec. 193. Privilege of witnesses
No witness is privileged to refuse to testify to any fact, or to produce any paper, respecting which he shall be examined by either House of Congress, or by any joint committee established by a joint or concurrent resolution of the two Houses of Congress, or by any committee of either House, upon the ground that his testimony to such fact or his production of such paper may tend to disgrace him or otherwise render him infamous.”

Simply look up Hinds Precedents, especially chapters 53 and 51, and Cannon’s Precedents, especially chapters 184-185. You’ll find numerous detailed cases of Congress asserting its power, arresting people, holding them until they agreed to answer questions, and then releasing them. Some of these people did not refuse to appear, but simply failed to satisfactorily answer questions. One has to wonder how a previous Congress might have responded to Alberto Gonzales’s endless recitations of “I do not recall.”

Congress can Remove the President
Congress can remove the head of every executive agency Congress can remove ALL of their employees
Congress can Abolish every agency they so choose
Congress can remove EVERY JUDGE IN AMERICA, including every supreme court justice.
Congress can abolish every federal court except the supreme Court
Congress can decide which cases the Judicial Branch can hear and decide
CONGRESS can Imprison ANYONE they want for any reason they so desire for as long as they wish.
Congress can declare WAR

No other governing body has even 10% of the power CONGRESS has!!

CONGRESS IS ALLOWING ALL OF IT!!!

Congress has the authority to arrest and imprison those found in Contempt. The power extends throughout the United States and is an inherent power (does not depend upon legislated act)

If found in Contempt the person can be arrested under a warrant of the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President of the Senate, by the respective Sergeant at Arms.

Statutory criminal contempt is an alternative to inherent contempt.

Under the inherent contempt power Congress may imprison a person for a specific period of time or an indefinite period of time, except a person imprisoned by the House of Representatives may not be imprisoned beyond adjournment of a session of Congress.

Imprisonment may be coercive or punitive.

Some references

[1] Joseph Story’s Commentaries on the Constitution, Volume 2, § 842 http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_5s21.html

[2] Anderson v. Dunn - 19 U.S. 204 - “And, as to the distance to which the process might reach, it is very clear that there exists no reason for confining its operation to the limits of the District of Columbia; after passing those limits, we know no bounds that can be prescribed to its range but those of the United States.” http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/19/204/case.html

[3] Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/case.html 73rd Cong., 78 Cong. Rec. 2410 (1934) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec78aunit

[4] McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 - Under a warrant issued by the President of the Senate the Deputy to the Senate Sergeant at Arms arrested at Cincinnati, Ohio, Mally S. Daugherty, who had been twice subpoenaed by the Senate and twice failed to appear. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/273/135/case.html

[5] Rules of the House of Representatives, Rule IV Duties of the Sergeant at Arms - [] execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/HMAN-105/pdf/HMAN-105-pg348.pdf

[6] An analysis of Congressional inquiry, subpoena, and enforcement http://www.constitutionproject.org/documents/when-congress-comes-calling-a-primer-on-the-principles-practices-and-pragmatics-of-legislative-inquiry/

In 1857, a New York Times reporter refused to say which members of Congress had asked him to get them bribes (protecting his “sources” just as various Judith Millers today protect the people who feed them proven lies that costs thousands of lives), so Congress locked him up until he answered and then banned him from Congress.

In 1924 an oil executive appeared but refused to answer certain questions, so the Senate held — literally held — him in contempt. Senator Thomas Walsh of Montana argued that this question of contempt was of the gravest importance, and that it involved “the very life of the effective existence of the House of Representatives of the United States and of the Senate of the United States.” The matter was taken to court, and the witness fined and imprisoned.


16 posted on 04/04/2017 3:17:11 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: LS

You know, it’s about Damn Time!


17 posted on 04/04/2017 3:18:48 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So the noise and finger-pointing will continue. And I have no idea who is winning.

Nonsense. Democrats never talked about ill-defined "Russian interference" until after Trump was elected, and have yet to produce anything that is even claimed to be evidence, or to name specific persons, other than boogie-man Trump of course, who might have been involved in whatever vague actions they have not quite claimed to have happened.

Republicans have transcripts and have made calls for Susan Rice and Farkas to explain their very specific statements and actions.

18 posted on 04/04/2017 3:19:06 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Cboldt

Thanks for the info Cboldt!!


19 posted on 04/04/2017 3:19:19 PM PDT by LouisianaJoanof Arc (Proud Horrible Deplorable that wants HRC prosecuted)
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To: Ray76

It has to involve Hillary because it was for HER advantage. So maybe that’s why the computer was at Huma’s apartment and maybe that’s the one we need to get into.


20 posted on 04/04/2017 3:19:24 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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