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1 posted on 04/02/2017 8:28:40 PM PDT by Elderberry
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2 posted on 04/02/2017 8:41:58 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: Elderberry; ExTexasRedhead

I never ceased to be amazed at the “legal system” in Whacko! They aren’t even subtle about their criminal behavior. Just wonder, in Texas, what level of judicial malfeasance does it take to get the State involved. What is going on in Whacko would be grounds for removing judges elsewhere. And there I though, based on what I read here from Texans, that Texas is the “Land of Milk and Honey,” where the Rule of Law prevails. Texans should be ashamed of Whacko.


3 posted on 04/02/2017 8:43:09 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Elderberry

What the hell is this article about?


4 posted on 04/02/2017 8:52:08 PM PDT by jiggyboy (!qa)
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Sounds like she knows actual law; what an extremely rare things for judges and lawyers today.


5 posted on 04/02/2017 8:54:17 PM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: Elderberry; jiggyboy
Judge Criss;

"If the order is verbal then it is not going to be enforceable without some verifiable record of exactly what is ordered. And then there is the whole issue of due process in the securing of an order without prior notice to the other side."

[snip]

“We have been put in a position of not really knowing if an order was issued by the Court, what the exact order was, what the circumstance of the order being rendered were and how to acquire any more information about the supposed order. This makes it impossible to advise our clients and render effective representation. This makes it impossible to make an effective record. Our adversary cannot serve as our intermediary with the Court. Furthermore our not being able to provide input to the Court prior to court orders being rendered causes multiple problems.”

[snip]

"To add the indignity of having the prosecution demand we play in their sandbox to avoid further waiving our client's Constitutional rights is problematic on many ethical, constitutional and appellate levels."

[from the article at Radio Legendary, with a bit more quoted from https://www.dropbox.com/s/p0u3ok6ezr4ojf4/Strother%20letter.pdf?dl=0]

Paul Looney (experienced, veteran criminal defense attorney, Houston);

"I am spending all of my hours shopping bookstore to bookstore for the Book of Waco," Looney said, "because the criminal procedures being followed in Waco are not in any of the $400,000 worth of books I have in my law library."

Sound of silence in Twin Peaks biker case drawing ire


Sounds of Silence
[Simon & Garfunkle]
(names sound like a
law firm, doesn't it?)

8 posted on 04/02/2017 9:49:55 PM PDT by BlueDragon (they were not listening then, they're not listening still...)
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To: Elderberry

Sounds like she has been busy


10 posted on 04/02/2017 10:29:30 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Elderberry

That was painful to read. Really bad writing style in need of a serious editor.


11 posted on 04/02/2017 10:49:42 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: Elderberry

The soup sure is getting thick in wacko town of Waco and they haven’t even addressed the swat team like staging of all the police presence there that day.

This probably won’t be said and done for quite a few more years. Until then; pass the popcorn and say a prayer thanking God you weren’t there by chance that day.


13 posted on 04/02/2017 11:41:42 PM PDT by Boomer (The modern day leftist dems are the party of criminally insane propagandists.)
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To: Elderberry

Sounds like a “Good Old Boys” network that bit off more than it can chew; it appears to be deparately trying to delay, obfuscate, and muddy the waters to protect its members.


14 posted on 04/03/2017 4:24:25 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Salamander

More of the Texas Two-Step. Who would have thought bringing these subhumans to justice would be so fraught with difficulty? These bikers must be millionaire geniuses! Evil people . . .


15 posted on 04/03/2017 4:30:23 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Elderberry

This has to be one of the most poorly written documents I have ever seen. It is simply not worth the time to attempt to decipher.


16 posted on 04/03/2017 5:01:36 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: Elderberry

When a FORMER judge, now a hire-by-the-hour criminal defense lawyer, challenges a warrant for DNA, you know the defs are in deep trouble.

#1, If the DNA did not link her client to the gun used to murder others, she would not be challenging the warrant to obtain the DNA.

#2, In a case such this, expecting an appeals court to reverse such a search warrant is a Hail Mary, but she has to burn the retainer hours somehow.

#3, Even if she won, they would simply draw more DNA under a new warrant.

#4, If this is all she has, the def is in big trouble.

All the jailhouse lawyer / motorcycle scum loving people here will reply to this post saying I’m wrong, how this is all a miscarriage of justice, etc.

But here is the reality. Many dozens of motorcycle club members, defined by Texas law as a criminal street gang, got into a shootout in a rural Texas county. 9 people ended up dead.

Many here cry about the DA throwing the book at all involved. Sorry, but he is simply following Texas law.
Already lawyers for some minor defs are cutting deals for reduced sentences in exchange for testimony.

Despite all the BS, with 9 people dead, 4 to 7 of these defs will get Death or LOWP, as they deserve, a dozen or so will get 3-5, and many more 180 days in County.

Sorry, but the defs came to McClennon County looking for trouble.... and they found it... in the law.


17 posted on 04/03/2017 5:10:24 AM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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