It is utterly inconceivable that anyone on this thread would have supported Rino care had been offered up by Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House and Barack Obama as president of the United States rather than by Paul Ryan and Donald Trump.
Posted on 04/02/2017 5:05:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
Media’s gonna beat this dead horse. It’ll get done. May not be exactly what everyone wants initially, but Trump’s agenda will move forward.
It is utterly inconceivable that anyone on this thread would have supported Rino care had been offered up by Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House and Barack Obama as president of the United States rather than by Paul Ryan and Donald Trump.
Why support either? They’re both unconstitutional.
what’s the old saying?
when thoroughbred encounter danger they circle up and kick outward - when jack-asses encounter danger they circle up and kick each other.
“Why support either? They’re both unconstitutional.”
You are right. What is required here is reframing the argument. Those who are trying to tweak the existing legislation are still trying to work within the framework that legislation set up. But once you ask the basic question, what is government tasked, by the constitution, to do special interests recoil in horror.
I’m convinced that the only thing that mattered in the AHCA was the CBO estimate of $1.2 trillion in Federal spending reductions over ten years. Even if the estimate was phony it would have stood as a benchmark for the pending tax reform battle in Congress.
Bears emphasizing and is spot-on accurate:
President Donald Trump was down for whatever – as long as something passed, he’d declare victory and call it a day. Where was his bill? He’d just won the presidency on the promise of ridding the country of this colossal failure, yet he didn’t come to the table with even a framework.
He supported every version of what the House bill became. It’s easy for people to fall in line behind a leader walking a straight, logical line; it’s impossible to follow someone blowing in the wind because you never know where they’ll be from one moment to the next.
“He’d declare victory and call it a day.”
Implicit in this statement is the now realization that this president has no real vision or really any principles. He just wants to make some “huge deal” to feed his ego. Basically he’s into twitter based masturbation.
Right. This is the Trump priority. Huge tax cuts for business.
I’m more than happy to help him with that. But not at the cost of affordable health care for American citizens.
No argument here but, while you are at it, can you convince Chief Justice Roberts?
Single payer here we come. Right back were we started from...
But don't worry, the death panels will make sure that nobody ever dies in the street.
The criticism of Trump for supporting whatever the House bill had become is really not fair. The details really didn’t matter much because the Senate was going to overhaul it anyway.
The very simple FACT of the matter is that Obamacare/Ryancare is not a function of the Federal Government as authorized in our Constitution. Because of that fact, the ONLY acceptable option is the full and total REPEAL of this unaffordable boondoggle.
And no where is this circular firing squad more apparent than at FR. It makes me sad to ponder it.
All we need is tax credits for medical expenses.
A Republican’s critical aim is never more true than when directed toward another Republican. That’s why even when they win, they lose.
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Yes, the are quick to blame each other but the fundamental reason why Republicans lose is because they have no real principles. If they did, when they had the opportunities they would have decreased the size of government and increased our liberties. But they never do that. The GOP is a phoney facade.
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Correct in that it is a long process thru many hands, committees, votes, amendments,
etc. before it even gets to somewhat of a final edition. The process, like it or not,
is what we have as our government in the House, Senate.
President Donald Trump was down for whatever – as long as something passed
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He just wanted a deal, a win. Lost in a lot of the discussion of the AHCA is that fact that only 17% of the American people supported it! That is a dismally low number, which begs the question as to why Trump was willing to go along with Ryan’s Big Adventure? Why put legislation forward that the people don’t like or want?
Come November 2020 my man Trump is going to get beat to a bloody pulp if he does not get the totally inept federal government our of Healthcare and replace it with a market based system.
That’s the only fix. Anything less is just Obamacare Lite.
I THOUGHT that Trump “got” this one little FACT. Now, I don’t know.
; At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son
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