Posted on 04/01/2017 6:49:38 AM PDT by azkathy
How much medical literature do you read? How many times have you gone to clinicaltrials.gov to read the details of registered clinical trials and deduce the study design and its weaknesses and strengths? How many times have you compared clinical trials to each other to ascertain which ones are better and more likely to succeed, vs. which ones are weak and unlikely to move past phase 1? How many mathematics, physics, biology, and chemistry classes have you taken, which would put you on the path to truly understanding the nitty gritty details of how the human organism functions?
I'm going to guess, you have done none of that. But you want to dismiss those of us who do have that deep understanding of biological function as people who "latch on to what they believe is pure, honest, 'clean' research"? I guess that is more psychologically comfortable than to admit that you are taken in by manipulative shysters.
You can hold true to your “scientific method”, etc. and unwittingly contribute to the depopulation schemes of your global masters, thereby contributing to the damaging of millions of young children.
The fact that you put "scientific method" into quotes in that fashion confirms that you have no clue about how the scientific method even works. The scientific method is a very strong, robust process for deriving fundamental facts. If you learn how to use it, you would benefit greatly.
As for my "global masters" and their "depopulation schemes", they seem remarkably inept. Rather than suppressing human population growth, they've enabled the world population to grow from 1.6 billion in 1900 to 7.4 billion in 2016--mostly through controlling infectious disease.
Instead of denigrating me and my "global masters" for our efforts to make all people healthier, why not show a little suspicion of those who want to go back to the past--for example, the 1900s when 16% of infants died before their first birthday, and life expectancy was 46 (men) and 48 (women) in the US?
And when you get a chance, would you mind telling me more about my "global masters" because I have no clue who these people are.
Keep posting your credentials and experience if you think that somehow gives you more legitimacy. It does NOTHING to impress us, absolutely nothing. Trying to engage us with your questions designed to show just what “superior” knowledge you possess is futile. Just as you think we are ignorant, we shake our heads in amazement at you.
Perhaps you need to have someone in YOUR family succumb. But probably not, as you are so confident in your “expert” knowledge.
You can do your own research re: depopulation/global masters. There is an abundance of information about that which you state you are clueless.
Go right ahead and exercise your liberty to inject your poison into your own loved ones at your own peril. Leave the rest of us who know better alone. We will NEVER embrace Vaccine Nazis.
Physicians are not scientists, unless they have taken a few years of extra training in research—which these quacks clearly have not. Most physicians know squat about research.
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Maybe you should let Dr Dolittle know that. He thinks he is a scientist too.
I am absolutely stunned at your arrogance. What is it about people who cling to quackery and their belief that they somehow have some secret font of knowledge and know more than the people who actually have spent years studying the issue and working in the field?
The point about presenting my credentials and experience is to show you that I actually have the background to speak knowledgeably on vaccines and related topics. [Most people who read my posts instinctively pick up on that, due to my use of the proper language in speaking on such topics.] Another thing I do is double-check everything I say; I do everything I can to avoid giving incorrect information.
How much knowledge and experience does anti-vax kook RFK, Jr. have? He's an "environmental lawyer," for Pete's sake. That should tell you something about *his* motives. What is it that radical environmentalists believe? That human beings are a pox on this planet that must be exterminated in order to "save" the planet, yes? So when a radical environmentalists strongly advocates that you not vaccinate your children against deadly diseases, why are you not the least bit skeptical of his motives?
Perhaps you need to have someone in YOUR family succumb. But probably not, as you are so confident in your “expert” knowledge.
The stories of children dying from vaccine-preventable diseases break my heart. Back when I was pregnant with my younger son, one of my friends had a beautiful baby girl. When that little girl was just a month old, my friend went to pick her up and found that the little girl would not awaken. She asked her doctor about it, and the doctor told her to bring her daughter in immediately. She did. The hospital arranged a medevac flight to take her to a specialty care hospital, but the baby did not survive... she died before the plane arrived to pick her up. That baby died from meningitis--a vaccine preventable disease.
I do not know of any deaths that can legitimately be linked to vaccines, and I have access to vast databases so can research this easily. However, when I look up "vaccine deaths" in the medical literature, I find over 10,000 articles talking about deaths that have been or could have been prevented by vaccines. And the CDC keeps track of causes of death; I routinely read about deaths from diseases that should have never happened had the victims been immunized.
You can do your own research re: depopulation/global masters. There is an abundance of information about that which you state you are clueless.
I do not read conspiracy theories, and find no appeal in them.
Go right ahead and exercise your liberty to inject your poison into your own loved ones at your own peril. Leave the rest of us who know better alone. We will NEVER embrace Vaccine Nazis.
I've never injected poison into anyone.
It's so weird, how the anti-vaxxers go on about "poisons" in vaccines. The most weird part is that the disease-causing microorganisms produce plenty of poison that kills people. But anti-vaxxers would rather people be exposed to those real poisons and die, when protecting them against those viruses and bacteria that get into the body and make deadly poisons is so easy. Again, this comes back to motives of the anti-vax movement. RFK, Jr.--a radical environmentalist--radicals in the environmental movement want to exterminate the human race--think about it.
Dr. Dolittle--the fictionary vet who talked to the animals and they talked to him? I loved those books when I was a kid, but don't recall much talk of medical research in them. In any case, I'm not likely to recognize him as an authority on medical research.
BTW, I did do a Google search for a "Dr. Dolittle" who would be associated with the anti-vax/pseudoscience movement. I found nothing. I did find mention of the handful of people who have been trained as physicians who then decided to disregard everything they were taught about medicine and go into quackery instead. I can only surmise that they did so because they were so bad at medicine that they either had to get out of the profession or be sued into oblivion.
The point is that if there is a single legitimate medical researcher anywhere who can make a scientific, evidenced case against protecting children from deadly diseases through vaccination, I have yet to find him/her. And it is really up to you to present the evidence that there really is such a person. You won't, of course, because the moment you post an actual name, you know that I will immediately check that person's qualifications and find out that they are another scammer.
Me, arrogant? Because I dare to be unimpressed with your Establishment-awarded credentials and experience? LOL. Because I dare to object to gov’t-mandated injections? LOL.
I am stunned with YOUR arrogance and persistence in repeating your attempts to try and establish some kind of superiority. What a shame you’ve spent years of your life studying this issue and keep coming to the same ERRONEOUS position, especially when common sense negates your wasted years.
Your continued knocks, smears, and attempts to demean RFK are pathetic. It matters not WHO the messenger is, and in NO WAY positively contributes to your position.
For the record, “conspiracy theory” is a 1960’s very effective, CIA-invented term used to discount what they consider posits which may be too close to truth. Conspiracy is when people plan to do evil. It should come as no surprise that Man, throughout time, has always conspired to do evil, because Man’s nature without God is naturally evil. Conspiracy identification, analysis, and exposure is prudent.
It’s nice that you are able to feel compassion towards those who have lost loved ones. It is a shame that you can’t see that some vaccines cause death and autism.
I suggest to the reader that they examine what reactions the government of India, and the people’s of Africa have toward the vaccines that Mr. Gates aggressively pushes in these countries. As well, I suggest to the reader that they ask themselves why it is that the Amish people have a notably lower rate of autism.
It is readily apparent that you really believe you are trying to save lives. The irony is, vaccines end up ruining lives, which is the ultimate goal of the globalists/depopulation plan.
Feel free to continue to vaccinate, aka poison, YOUR loved ones. You are free to make that choice. Extend to others the same liberty to choose not to do so. If you believe vaccines work, then your loved ones will be protected. And those who aren’t buying it believe they are protecting their loved ones. It’s personal liberty.
Passing laws to protect people from themselves is the method by which tyrannical governments gain control over every aspect of our lives. Mandatory vaccine laws are a great example.
>>You won’t, of course, because the moment you post an actual name, you know that I will immediately check that person’s qualifications and find out that they are another scammer.
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Aggressive Vaccine Nazis are dangerous to mankind.
There were many doctors who did tremendous research in this area, and uncovered a great deal of evil.
Wonder of wonders, most of these doctors have died under mysterious circumstances when their research and treatments came to the attention of Big Pharma. We won’t be posting names for their execution list.
Good thing President Trump has the courage to give the green light in making progress to expose their nefarious activities. God Bless his and RFK’s efforts. Truth will ultimately prevail, much to the chagrin of the well-meaning but totally duped vaccine warriors.
You keep showing off your total lack of ability to think critically and complete inability to understand the scientific process.
If it is any consolation to you, you would have hated me in school, too. I was that person who picked up everything the moment the teacher said it, and was either let out of class to do special projects or sent off with students of your intellectual ability to tutor them so they might have a chance at passing the class. I can't help being intelligent--I was born this way--but it is funny just how much resentment and hostility I faced because of it. It is obvious you still feel a lot of resentment towards intelligent people. I surmise that it is that resentment which is behind the fact that you embrace anti-vax kooks so strongly. Of course, I won't stop talking like an intelligent person just because someone like you feels that intelligent people are only showing off their superiority when they talk about what they know.
It’s nice that you are able to feel compassion towards those who have lost loved ones. It is a shame that you can’t see that some vaccines cause death and autism.
Of course I "can't see" that. There actually has to be evidence of something before I can see it. Vaccines are safe; the whole autism-MMR link was concocted by someone angling to become rich from it and, furthermore, was debunked years ago.
The real shame is that people like you can be presented with reams of data that show the ongoing death toll from preventable diseases, and you have absolutely no sympathy or empathy at all for those affected. On the contrary, your reaction is to want to bring those death tolls back to the first world. That isn't just a shame, it is sick.
I suggest to the reader that they examine what reactions the government of India, and the people’s of Africa have toward the vaccines that Mr. Gates aggressively pushes in these countries.
They welcome the vaccines and any other assistance they can get to lower the death tolls in their countries. Young African mothers walk for miles carrying small children in the hopes of reaching the clinic before the limited vaccine supplies run out. While you don't seem to care if African babies die of vaccine-preventable diseases, enough other people do care that they are devoting their lives towards trying to improve African lives and save African babies. [Same thing goes for Asia.]
Passing laws to protect people from themselves is the method by which tyrannical governments gain control over every aspect of our lives. Mandatory vaccine laws are a great example.
So, you are for getting rid of all laws? Tyrannical governments do not pass laws to "protect people from themselves"; they pass laws to control behavior. They pass laws to make conducting business impossible, which then gives them control over the food supply. They enforce laws sporadically, and so on.
Vaccination is mandatory because it is a public health measure. If diseases were not communicable, there would be no reason to make vaccination mandatory. But diseases are very contagious, and so the laws exist to protect those who cannot be vaccinated, like babies or those with immune disorders.
I have to wonder why you frequent a conservative web site, when it is obvious that you have the lack of logical thinking ability that is typical of leftists, and you apparently love the far-left guru, RFK Jr.
YOU keep showing off YOUR ARROGANCE in repeating, again and again, your gov’t-awarded credentials and experience. Do you think after the second or third time of repeating it, to NO AVAIL, that it would suddenly dawn on you that it is not impressing those of us who do not share your pride in your “expert” status? LOL, probably not. Let’s go for another round, where you spout off how qualified you are, and I respond with how unimpressive it is to those of us who know better. Will you ever understand that we will never be impressed with your efforts to “educate” others with your “superior” credentials, experience, or thought processes? Probably not. But you keep repeating it, if you wish. We’ll just keep shaking our head at your arrogance and inability to see what is before you.
>>you would have hated me in school, too. I was that person who picked up everything the moment the teacher said it, and was either let out of class to do special projects or sent off with students of your intellectual ability to tutor them so they might have a chance at passing the class. I can’t help being intelligent—I was born this way-
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LOL. Could you be any more braggadocious and full of yourself? Your opinion of yourself as being ever so special and above everyone else is truly entertaining, especially to those of us who clearly see you for what you have shown us thus far. Resentment and hostility for your “superior” intelligence? What vomit-inducing drivel. Keep on posting to let us know just how incredibly gifted you are and how far short the rest of us are. You do yourself in by your delusion.
>>Vaccines are safe; the whole autism-MMR link was concocted by someone angling to become rich from it and, furthermore, was debunked years ago.
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Ignorance and arrogance are an unfortunate combination. You wear it well.
>>The real shame is that people like you can be presented with reams of data that show the ongoing death toll from preventable diseases, and you have absolutely no sympathy or empathy at all for those affected. On the contrary, your reaction is to want to bring those death tolls back to the first world. That isn’t just a shame, it is sick.
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The REAL shame is how you so ardently shill for your global masters, who only have to sit back and smile at your ignorant and woefully misplaced fervor. That is what is sick.
>>They welcome the vaccines and any other assistance they can get to lower the death tolls in their countries. Young African mothers walk for miles carrying small children in the hopes of reaching the clinic before the limited vaccine supplies run out. While you don’t seem to care if African babies die of vaccine-preventable diseases, enough other people do care that they are devoting their lives towards trying to improve African lives and save African babies. [Same thing goes for Asia.
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What a load of blatant lies. Reader: A simple search will disprove this and show quite the opposite.
>>So, you are for getting rid of all laws? Tyrannical governments do not pass laws to “protect people from themselves”; they pass laws to control behavior. They pass laws to make conducting business impossible, which then gives them control over the food supply. They enforce laws sporadically, and so on.
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Since you have demonstrated your lack of fully comprehending the concept, let me state it again for you, perhaps with better results.
The little “do-gooders” who think they know better, aka “Liberals, Communists, Socialists, Fascists”, etc., always seek to “do good” for others who they think aren’t quite as intelligent (sound familiar?LOL) as other people, and want to help them out. Yes they want to control others, of course. The two concepts are not mutually exclusive. Is your “superior” mind able to grasp that? It is YOU who need to question why you post to a conservative website. Perhaps you need to drop the “Ex” in your posting name, for more accurate identification.
>>Vaccination is mandatory because it is a public health measure.
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No, vaccines are mandatory because of the tyrant’s greed. The love of money to be made from Big Pharma and the medical industry from A-Z is at the root. I know that may present some difficulty for someone of your mental “gifts” to fully understand, given your reticence to pursue research into what you incorrectly label “conspiracy theory”, but that is your unfortunate dilemma with which to deal.
>>If diseases were not communicable, there would be no reason to make vaccination mandatory. But diseases are very contagious, and so the laws exist to protect those who cannot be vaccinated, like babies or those with immune disorders.
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So there should theoretically be no problem for you to be content with vaccinating yourself and leaving others to make that determination for themselves. For if those who choose not to vaccinate become contagious, YOU would be theoretically protected against them because you vaccinated yourself. But no, the rabid vaxxers are not satisfied with simply protecting themselves. They want to force their beliefs onto those who make a difference choice. That is what tyranny is.
>>I have to wonder why you frequent a conservative web site, when it is obvious that you have the lack of logical thinking ability that is typical of leftists, and you apparently love the far-left guru, RFK Jr.
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Poor ExDemMom, she just can’t seem to grasp simple, basic concepts of Freedom vs. Tyranny. It is YOU you are sorely lacking in the ability to see that your desire to push your beliefs onto others is in fact typical of Liberals, Communists, Socialists, and Fascists, not conservatives. And once again, you demonstrate your inability to understand what has repeatedly been explained to you re: RFK. I hold no expectation that you will look beyond your brain capacity in what will no doubt be a futile attempt at understanding what is before you. Nevertheless, let it again be stated that anyone, regardless of their political persuasion, has the ability to be correct on one or more issues.
Thank God our President has this intellectual ability. He is genius enough to look beyond what is an apparent stumbling block for YOU, to see that RFK has the potential to expose the vaccine evil that has been perpetrated against unwitting citizens.
You poor thing. I can only imagine that you've spent your life in seething jealousy of intellectuals.
It is very obvious that you have closed your mind to any sort of logic or intellect. That is actually a hallmark of those who fall for pseudoscience and quackery. It is not for your sake that I engage in these discussions. It is for the sake of ordinary people, who might be briefly taken in by the hoaxers. I do this to debunk the hoaxers and to educate people on how to fact-check and where the sources of valid information are. It really isn't for your sake; you've already shown that you have no interest in actually looking up the facts for yourself.
I'm not going to bother with most of your rant. It shows your jealousy, unhinged--it is little different from all of the snowflakes and social justice warriors who have been displaying their utter stupidity and immaturity on youtube for the whole world to see. It is, for the most part, word salad. But I will comment on a couple of things.
What a load of blatant lies. Reader: A simple search will disprove this and show quite the opposite.
Who is this "reader" you are addressing? If you have actual evidence that what I said is incorrect, why not just present it? But you can't, can you? Because there is no evidence that African or Asian women reject *any* medical intervention that will allow their children to live.
While you reject the combined knowledge, experience, and research of tens of thousands of PhD scientists and research-trained physicians, why do you swallow so whole-heartedly the hokum that RFK, Jr. has to spew? Where is his scientific background that would qualify him to speak on vaccines? Where is the evidence that he is anything other than a radical leftist loony? And why are his followers like you frequenting a conservative forum? The fact that he is an "environmental lawyer"--making him part of a group that constantly tells us how bad humanity is--and he is going around trying to convince people to stop taking measures against deadly diseases doesn't bother you at all?
The fact that it does not bother you at all that without vaccines, millions of children die every year tells me a lot. I suspect you are part of the cabal that wishes to kill off humanity. You have shown clearly that you don't care about children dying.
>>You poor thing. I can only imagine that you’ve spent your life in seething jealousy of intellectuals.
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LOL, you are so far beyond reality in your conclusions that you’ve entered the Comedy Zone now, DemMom. For some odd reason, you like to tout your superiority, as if no one else has gov’t-issued credentials and could ever approach your “special intellect”. Repeatedly declaring how “intellectual” you are will not negate the opposite conclusion. Information has been posted to you that you dismiss as a rant. That’s okay. You are free to choose to close your mind to and ignore whatever you wish.
>>I do this to debunk the hoaxers and to educate people on how to fact-check and where the sources of valid information are. It really isn’t for your sake;
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It’s a free republic. You are welcome to keep on trying to get others to believe you with your gov’t approved “science”. Perhaps some will buy it, and perhaps others will toss it in the bin along with other “science” which has been tainted and debunked through the years.
I shall continue to post whenever I see the Vaccine Nazis post the virtues of gov’t-mandated vaccines. Hopefully, some will do the research that I suggested and will have their eyes opened.
Ours is a growing movement because it is based not on gov’t-funded and approved research, but on the common sense of the common man. Every day more people are learning to question and doubt their gov’t masters.
>>I’m not going to bother with most of your rant. It shows your jealousy, unhinged...
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Of course you would dismiss attempts to try to expand your limited knowledge. By labeling it a “rant”, you can excuse yourself of having to deal with your “inferiors”/s. Whatever works to make you that smug, “intellectual”, DemMom. It’s plain to see who is the liberal snowflake and who is not.
>>If you have actual evidence that what I said is incorrect, why not just present it? But you can’t, can you?
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Tsk, tsk...still trying to get others to do your own research, DemMom.
>>I suspect you are part of the cabal that wishes to kill off humanity. You have shown clearly that you don’t care about children dying.
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You poor pathetic little liberal, accusing others of that which you are guilty.
Now listen closely and try again to understand. I’ll keep it short so you can read it without too much effort:
TYRANTS (Liberals, Communists, Socialists, and Fascists) love to FORCE people to do as they command. YOU are the one supporting gov’t-forced action. That makes YOU the left-wing nutjob.
LIBERTY lovers (conservatives) don’t take kindly to gov’t forced injections. They are in charge of their own bodies.
If tyrants can force citizens to be injected with whatever they decide, they own the bodies of their citizens. That is TYRANNY.
If citizens own their bodies, they make all decisions regarding what goes into them. That is LIBERTY.
Liberty vs. Tyranny
We are a free republic with free citizens.
Forcing citizens do be injected against their will is tyranny.
Get it now? Probably not.
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