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Posted on 03/29/2017 7:15:49 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: Nifster

YOU are full of it if you are defending heroin addicts. Get lost.


81 posted on 03/29/2017 8:55:12 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Nifster

You nor I have enough birthdays left for me to relate what I know about addiction, alcoholism, and the personal or familial abuse that goes with them. Let’s just leave it at that.


82 posted on 03/29/2017 8:57:48 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: TigerClaws

I celebrated 30 years of sobriety today. Drugs were also a part of my story. Every story is different but the result of not getting help is the same. Death, prison, or institutions. God’s grace keeps me sober. That and continuing to work with others. Interestingly after I got sober I also quit playing the victim and was transformed from a liberal to a conservative.


83 posted on 03/29/2017 9:06:08 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: TigerClaws

The needle and the damage done.


84 posted on 03/29/2017 9:10:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Huskrrrr
What you just said is what I have noticed, too.

The drugs reduce the willpower and encourage a feeling of helplessness. That helplessness isn't actually there, but we can believe it is.

People migrate toward the right on the political spectrum as they control the temptation. People migrate toward liberalism to justify their behavior because liberalism minimizes any concept of “responsibility.”

85 posted on 03/29/2017 9:11:19 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Huskrrrr

Good for you!


86 posted on 03/29/2017 9:28:50 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: ConservativeMind
If your mind kept telling you to hit your knee caps with a hammer I would say most definitely you would have a mental disease. While it is true that most addicts become that due to their own decisions, but after awhile the decision is no longer theirs unless they are extremely strong minded individuals. I would have to know the circumstances behind them getting addicted.

For example, I had a friend who broke his right lower leg in a sledding accident. He spent 6 months in the hospital and endured several surgeries of which involved inserting about a 1 foot metal rod in his leg. Back then they relied way too much on morphine to relieve the pain. When he finally got out of the hospital, he was addicted. He became an abuser of heroin, but was always a functional person who was able to support his habit. I was his best friend and I never knew until many years later that he was doing heroin. Eventually we fell out of touch and I do not know his status today, but I know he used for many years. I do not think he ever mainlined it, instead he snorted it from a nose spray bottle. In fact he used to love to go ask a cop a question and spray his nose while talking to them. He got some kind of perverse kick out of that. I'm sure by now it has taken a toll on him, if he still is using, and most likely it has taken his freedom or his life. Before that he did no drugs and had no vices, and an extremely bright person.

87 posted on 03/29/2017 9:51:55 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ConservativeMind

You are so uninformed

Keep on keeping on though. Because ignorance is boiss


88 posted on 03/29/2017 10:05:13 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: plain talk

No I a, defending no one. I am telling you about real live people who became heroin addicts....and fortunately for then and their families they are in recovery and doing well


89 posted on 03/29/2017 10:07:12 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: VTenigma

If you ain’t one....trust me when I tell you that you do not know.

You totally blew off my experience and training. So I am sure you can tell me so much more.....not


90 posted on 03/29/2017 10:09:03 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Lurker

Cancer is a disease. Pneumonia is a disease. Parkinson’s is a disease.

Drug abuse is not.


91 posted on 03/29/2017 11:28:58 PM PDT by Persevero
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To: TigerClaws

My Father was an Alcoholic for over 60 Years.

He quit Drinking at age 79 after falling on his Face one too many times. He quit right after my Mother died. She was a Victim of his Alcoholism as were my Brother and I.

I attended his AA “Birthday” Celebration every year until he passed away last October at age 93. I was very proud of him when he quit Drinking and he started to go to AA.

He was Sober for the last 14 Years of his Life and he was an inspiration to the people at AA. If he could quit Drinking at his advanced age, they could quit too. He gave them hope.

The people there loved my Father and it was tough for them when he passed away.

That being said, the participants there call Alcoholism a Disease, I don’t.

I feel the same way about Drug Abuse, it is not a Disease.

I have Leukemia, THAT is a Disease.


92 posted on 03/29/2017 11:47:26 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Huskrrrr

Good for you my FRiend.

I hope your Life continues on the path of Sobriety.


93 posted on 03/29/2017 11:49:31 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: TigerClaws

A few years ago, when pot was easy and pretty legal, the Mexican cartels switched to really pushing heroin. It has worked wonderfully for them.

So many young teens, with zero supervision, their parents do not speak honestly about drugs with them or expose them to truths about the different drugs (they aren’t all the same in potential life changing harm). What do we THINK will happen? Most kids just want to party. Have fun. Even the smart ones who get good grades. Parents do NOT understand the drive kids have to alter their state with substances. So kids learn by doing.

It hasn’t changed much since I was young, but there was almost NO heroin around in my hoods when I was young. It was thought to be the one drug you don’t touch. Everything else was available in my high school, just walking down one hall.

But people need to know how scary some drugs are, because they take away that chance your brain has to THINK about what you took and DECIDE if you will take it again. Crack, meth, and heroin sometimes have that effect on people. You need to not TOUCH those. Some people drop their entire lives after one time, and just go after that buzz forever. And forever ain’t very long if you do. But kids always are sure they will live forever. And since they lived through whatever crazy crap they did the night before, they assume that they will live through tonight.

I definitely note that teen athletes who practice daily do not seem to have as much trouble. Will they smoke a joint, or get drunk on beer? Yes. They might. But they KNOW if will affect their performance if they do too much of even that. They seem to not need that “high” from drugs as much as kids with no heavy sports. They do wild amazing things in real life, on the field, in the gym, on the ice. For real. Plus their free time is spent on their sport. My athletes only had time after practice for homework, food, and a bit of online video gaming with their buddies. I recommend having each kid have some sport they enjoy and work it hard during the middle and high school years.


94 posted on 03/30/2017 12:31:36 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Sad, yes, but there is a SUREFIRE WAY to not get addicted to opiates.

I’ve had two major brain surgeries and four c sections. Especially after the brain surgeries, you needed opiates. I wouldn’t have wanted to live without them. Thank Gd for the Poppy plant. Some pain you wouldn’t want your worst enemy to feel. Well, maybe your worst enemy!

Anyway, here is the surefire way to know when to stop the pain pills. The time when you say, I’m going to take one now, for the pain that will probably happen later. BOOM. This feeling always happens when you’ve been on opiates for a couple days. Your brain tells you, take one now... for later... and you need to step in RIGHT THEN and not take one. The next day will be easy to pass them up. It always works for me.

But yes, I understand the pull of them. After my first surgery, they had been shooting me up with morphine in my front thighs (I was in another country) every time I said the word for pain. They sent me home after a week of this, with some low dose opiate pill. The first day in my own bed I lay there with tears streaming down my cheeks in bed while every rustle in the next room was like a cacophony. I couldn’t even sleep, I just lay there in some kind of hell that was beyond pain. But it passed.

My last two c sections, after recovery I refused the Demerol shots that were offered. I wanted to be alert for the baby. No one needs to be a hero, but a little pain in life won’t kill ya.


95 posted on 03/30/2017 12:41:39 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Have lots of experience with this issue. I've observed there are two types of people, those who don't want to use pain meds longer than necessary thus do not get psychologically addicted, and the others who have an emotional pain as well as physical pain which opiates are excellent at soothing. Some in this group can maintain a stable life and not escalate their daily intake of their drug of choice, And then there are those who chase the high until the addiction is out of control.

My personal opinion is that the supposed epidemic is solely caused by an educational system that makes no sense, inculcates irrational ideas, thus the most serious and intelligent kids who want to understand the purpose and meaning of life end up hopeless, helpless, lost, vulnerable to someone or thing that offers relief from chronic psychic pain. I formed this opinion watching my high school mates in the 60’s dropping LSD and dropping out after years of American style dumbed down schooling.

96 posted on 03/30/2017 12:41:39 AM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: bigbob

Here’s the deal, y’all. Life is a sentence and it is pointless and painful. Drugs, alcohol and other addictions distract humans from the pain.

If life wasn’t such a bitxh, addictions wouldn’t happen. The Freeper comments on this topic are unneccesarily heartless. Freepers are kidding themselves if you think there is any answer for this human condition of being sentenced to live in a living hell called earth.


97 posted on 03/30/2017 12:56:59 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TigerClaws

“...struggling with the disease of addiction...”

DISEASE is it? How about lifestyle or personal choice to break the law?


98 posted on 03/30/2017 2:00:40 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: MSF BU

I can tell you our very own politicians are in many ways tied to this lucrative market that is killing our youth


99 posted on 03/30/2017 3:05:43 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: TigerClaws

I disagree that this is a disease; it is a moral choice like any other sin. Like any other sin, there can be a biochemical, and neurological reward system that makes continuing in sin desirable, and stopping very unpleasant for a time, but ultimately it is still a choice.


100 posted on 03/30/2017 3:40:08 AM PDT by LambSlave
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