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Vanity: Honest Obituary of Heroin Addict
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Posted on 03/29/2017 7:15:49 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: plain talk; South Hawthorne

You have absolutely no clue as to what you are talking about.

How about the teen age girl who ends up getting addicted because her “boyfriend” just wanted to pimp her out? How about the severely wounded vet who got addicted during all the surgeries and rehab from his injuries?

These are just a few of the foljs I know......there are countless stories that don’t fit your all knowing opinion


61 posted on 03/29/2017 8:24:16 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: WENDLE

Not every disease is a “germ in the air” and to say so is just silly. It makes you seem ignorant and foolish. Asthma is a disease my son was born with. He didn’t catch it. I have an autoimmune disease. I didn’t catch that either nor is it caused by my lifestyle; I’m actually pretty disciplined and have healthy habits.

We live in a fallen world and are all born with a sinful nature. We just have different proclivities regarding sin. For some, the area in which they are weak is pridefulness. That one may be harder to recognize in oneself, but it’s one that God says He hates.


62 posted on 03/29/2017 8:24:40 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: WENDLE

And you know nothing of alcoholism. But it’s always nice to have an opinion even when it’s wrong


63 posted on 03/29/2017 8:25:18 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: redfreedom

Good for you

I there are those who need more than will power. I’ve known folks who did it on will power.....some of the most miserable unhappy and judgemental people I have ever met


64 posted on 03/29/2017 8:27:12 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: morphing libertarian

“heroin use and epidemics come out of the brain of individual users who make decisions to use the drug.”

Like most all the people who comprise the dregs of society, their undoing is the result of very bad choices during the youth of their lives.


65 posted on 03/29/2017 8:27:28 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Nifster

By definition, you can’t be “alcoholic” without alcohol.

You put that in your body because you crave it.

You are responsible for that action.


66 posted on 03/29/2017 8:30:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Nifster

“Like the ER doc you have a skewed view”

My views on addiction are based on years of experience, through direct, multi-year contact with roughly 1,800+ individuals in real world settings; working directly with the person and their families inside their actual homes and in their neighborhoods.

Where do your opinions deride from?


67 posted on 03/29/2017 8:31:45 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: ConservativeMind

And you are mostly incorrect.
If it were just about not using or drinking then stopping would be enough. It is not. The fact that you don’t know that says you do not understand it


68 posted on 03/29/2017 8:32:20 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: VTenigma

Tell me oh wise one exactly what do you know about alcoholism or addiction


69 posted on 03/29/2017 8:33:32 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Rembrandt

Then solution starts with putting the blame on the correct people. I am addicted to sugar and I’m 70 years old. I don’t blame the cane growers, or the processors or the stores and restaurants. I don’t want the police to, save me. I blame myself.


70 posted on 03/29/2017 8:33:33 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Nifster

Everyone in AA stops it, and relies on God to help keep them from lapsing.

What’s the basis for your position? It sounds ignorant.


71 posted on 03/29/2017 8:35:19 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

You are incorrect....there is a genetic component to it. The fact that it can be pinpointed in the neurotransmitters and DNA of an individual tells us otherwise. Moreover not drinking doesn’t relieve the cravings....and if you have never experienced them you are clueless.

Your comment is rather like telling a type one diabetic that if they don’t eat sugar they won’t be diabetic. You are so far behind the research it’s sad


72 posted on 03/29/2017 8:37:32 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Bigg Red

“Well, unless said person forcibly had her take heroin, the dead woman is ultimately the one responsible.”

I know but the pushers are in an illegal and immoral trade that kills people. I hold them responsible too.


73 posted on 03/29/2017 8:37:55 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Noamie

Twenty years of sobriety and work with hundreds one on one and thousands in the rooms


74 posted on 03/29/2017 8:38:47 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: b4me

You don’t need Jesus. You need a higher power. If that’s Jesus for you, fine.


75 posted on 03/29/2017 8:40:30 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: ConservativeMind

And if you ask those in AA they will tell you they rely on a lower greater than themselves....that takes many forms. They will also tell you that it isn’t about drinking...that was but a symptom

The basis for my opinion is twenty years of sobriety, work with other alcoholics and addicts, and training in the area.


76 posted on 03/29/2017 8:41:41 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Noamie

So what is a person with constant chronic pain
from damage to a spinal nerve supposed to do?


77 posted on 03/29/2017 8:43:19 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Nifster

DNA does not make anyone an alcoholic or drug user. There are markers that show a greater propensity toward rewards from such behavior, but a huge number of people never have issues, despite these markers.

A person who eats too much gets fat. That is also not a disease, yet larger people say they can’t stop it. Fat cells, after dieting, release more hormones to encourage eating to regain weight. Still, this “genetic” behavior does not make eating too much a “disease.”

Alcoholism is simply a matter of self-control, just as eating too much is, too.


78 posted on 03/29/2017 8:48:17 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Your confusing a drunk with an alcoholic.

You can’t be a drunk without alcohol.

You can choose to quit drinking and do so for the rest of your life, but you’re still going to be an alcoholic,one drink away from becoming a drunk again.


79 posted on 03/29/2017 8:50:00 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man

As you said, it still takes alcohol in your body to be an alcoholic.


80 posted on 03/29/2017 8:51:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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