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White House Restarts Talks With Freedom Caucus To Repeal Obamacare
Newsweek/Daily Beast & NY Times ^ | 1 hour ago

Posted on 03/28/2017 11:18:28 AM PDT by drewh

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To: drewh
Oh I guess President Trump does know what side of the toast has the butter on it.

He better know who put him in office.

21 posted on 03/28/2017 11:33:55 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: WENDLE
youre preaching to the choir here! :)

I thnk Rinse and his staff have been the moles since day one...

22 posted on 03/28/2017 11:34:11 AM PDT by drewh (>)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

Holding the up or down vote on repeal is critical for true reform and draining the swamp. Republicans who campaigned for repeal of Obamacare cannot be let off the hook.


23 posted on 03/28/2017 11:37:24 AM PDT by hollyweed
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To: drewh

Repeal the 0bamacare law now and make the effective date two years from now. That way the Democrats have to work with the Republicans on the replacement.


24 posted on 03/28/2017 11:37:25 AM PDT by forgotten man
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To: drewh

Do WHATEVER it takes to repeal Obamacare and defund Planned Parenthood.

There should be fist fights in Congress like they have in Japan. DON’T keep it civil. Tyranny is not civil.

If legislators need to go back to duels with swords or pistols, then do it.

I’m not kidding. If you don’t repeal, there will be war. A literal war where people die. And some of those people will be the spineless and traitorous politicians who sold American citizens down the river.

Too many of us are unwilling to live and have our posterity live under tyranny.

Period.


25 posted on 03/28/2017 11:38:48 AM PDT by unlearner (So much winning !!! It's Trumptastic!)
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To: drewh

Oh I didn’t mean that in condescension at all. I do not doubt that what I noted is well recognized truth. I was just following on yiou comment in elaboration .


26 posted on 03/28/2017 11:39:14 AM PDT by WENDLE ("Sanctuary" cities break federal criminal law!!-- JAIL!!)
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To: drewh

I’m also closer to winning the lottery than I ever have been before. This isn’t horseshoes, get it done!


27 posted on 03/28/2017 11:39:20 AM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: drewh

Part of Trump’s track record for deal making is walking out of negotiations. I saw that the lefts celebration of Trump walking away from this not as a failure like they thought but as a necessary step toward making a deal.


28 posted on 03/28/2017 11:42:38 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Conserv
and kindly leave Paul Ryan out of the negotiations!

Just blasted across all Media:

Paul Ryan says no need to upset budget negotiations over de-funding Planned Parenthood.

That's our GOP, folks. Keeping conservatism where it belongs: Out of sight and out of mind. Freedom Caucus learn to compromise you bunch of ignorant, Right Wing Neanderthals!

/S

29 posted on 03/28/2017 11:43:05 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: drewh

It oughta START here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3538590/posts

And END there.

AFTER the monstrosity is obliterated, The Administration can talk to Congress about what measures to take to remediate the insurance marketplace, like allowing competition across state lines. We don’t need another 2,500-page legislative massacre to implement simple, sensible things.


30 posted on 03/28/2017 11:44:36 AM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: drewh

Just repeal it. It’s a turd. I cannot be more clear.


31 posted on 03/28/2017 11:44:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Add to your list a repeal of the Bush era extensions to drug patent terms. Better yet, limit drug patents to three years.


32 posted on 03/28/2017 11:45:37 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: WENDLE

>The basic problem was that Paul RINO refused to negotiate with the real conservatives

The only people Paul Ryan and his like negotiate with are industry lobbyists.

That Paul Ryan is at the center of an industrialized, mass bribery ring is not in question to anyone who knows the first thing about what really goes on in DC these days.


33 posted on 03/28/2017 11:52:56 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: marron
If there are not the votes for a full repeal--which we devoutly wish for--we may have to accept an interim measure, in order to keep our momentum going! In the meanwhile, we should employ some pretty clear talking points. As posted yesterday:

I think that the President made it clear that he did not see the issue as at all simplistic in agreeing to the Ryan approach as a first of at least three steps to get the Bureaucracy supervising Health Care off of the backs of American medical care provisioning.

I think the essential thing, now, is that we keep moving forward in the quest. So long as many Republicans still cling to the folly that the Federal Government has a proper role in civilian health care, the progress back to what actually works will be slow.

The fundamental fallacy driving Federal involvement is the egalitarian-collectivist mindset, that premises unlimited claims to power, so long as those claiming power seek to level the conditions of those subject of their power.

In the Jacobin & Bolshevik revolutions, the orchestrators assumed the "right" to freely slaughter those who offended by having wealth & land, or being connected with organized religion. Since LBJ on the Health Care front, the egalitarian collectivists have been endeavoring to make certain that medical care was provided equally to rich & poor, healthy & unhealthy, provident & improvident.

Other than this Jacobin/Marxist obsession with leveling humanity, there is no rational reason to intrude a far off bureaucracy into something as inherently immediate, inherently local, as the relationship between physician & patient. Nor is the obsession really excusable on a pretense of the special needs of the person with a medical "precondition" (so far as the insurance industry is concerned).

The oath that physicians have been taking for 2300 years, requires them to treat the person with the "precondition," whether that person can pay or not. (Policing the insurance industry in this manner--not a role granted in the Federal Constitution--is a ridiculous red herring, when you recognize the effect of that ancient, but ongoing oath.)

LBJ's 1965 intrusion, tripled the percentage of our GDP that went to Health Care. Obama's ACA was a piling on an already developing disaster.

One other very clear factor. Whereas the far less regulated computer related fields have seen immense cost reductions, as the power of innovation increased; the cost of new technology in the over meddled with provision of Health Care, has exploded upwards.

Does anyone not understand that imposing layers of bureaucracy does not help the conscientious physician in addressing the unique situation of each afflicted patient; that you cannot treat unique individuals by arbitrary check lists; that Government regulated health care--and simply deciding the extent of funding for whatever is a form of regulation;--can never be an improvement over the care furnished by skilled people, honorably required to do the best they can for each unique individual in each unique situation.

(And believe it or not, many of those now hobbled physicians actually know more about health care than the bureaucrats in Washington!)

34 posted on 03/28/2017 11:54:40 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: drewh

Sandler Sales Methodology 101.

After you take them to a “no”, it’s the start of the beginning of a new process to get them to “yes”.


35 posted on 03/28/2017 11:55:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: WENDLE

“The basic problem was that Paul RINO refused to negotiate with the real conservatives . Rino ended up with a very bad bill. ( I don’t think Trump understood it!! He really needs NEWT in the white House fast!)”

No, Trump doesn’t need NEWT in the White House. Newt supported Rynocare, a turkey of a bill if there ever was one. This shouldn’t be surprising to those who recall Newt’s performance as Speaker in the 90’s. As some have noted here on FR, the global warming advertisement with Newt and Nancy Pelosi on the couch tells you all you need to know about Newt...


36 posted on 03/28/2017 11:55:32 AM PDT by BackInVegas
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To: SeeSharp

—”Add to your list a repeal of the Bush era extensions to drug patent terms. Better yet, limit drug patents to three years.”

Think again, my friend...

If drug companies only have a 3-year window to recoup their vast investment in research and clinical trials, there will be no innovation. Patents are property rights.

You sound like a Democrat who doesn’t understand free market economies.


37 posted on 03/28/2017 11:56:08 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: BackInVegas

I just want Newt in the debate, not controlling the policy.


38 posted on 03/28/2017 11:56:30 AM PDT by drewh (>)
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To: drewh

Here’s what the new bill should be:

“Effective as of Dec. 31, 2017, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is repealed, and the provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.”

It’s my understanding that it’s already been filed by U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks, R AL.

Just do it!


39 posted on 03/28/2017 11:59:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Mo Brooks submits no-nonsense bill to repeal Obamacare :) http://www.catholic.org/news/politics/story.php?id=74243


40 posted on 03/28/2017 12:01:27 PM PDT by drewh (>)
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