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White House Restarts Talks With Freedom Caucus To Repeal Obamacare
Newsweek/Daily Beast & NY Times ^ | 1 hour ago

Posted on 03/28/2017 11:18:28 AM PDT by drewh

White House restarts talks with Freedom Caucus to repeal Obamacare, NYT reports


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 115th; ahca; freedomcaucus; repealandreplace; ryancarebillpulled; trump
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To: drewh

This is like when one person finds a huge millipede in the house and wants to “set it free” outside, while the other person insists, just kill it.

If the first person is a liberal she will boohoo that the monster might be carrying eggs. If the second person is...sane — the kill becomes an emergency.


101 posted on 03/28/2017 4:27:29 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( rent this space)
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To: drewh

He heard our outcry too! I do believe he is listening to his voters!!


102 posted on 03/28/2017 4:34:55 PM PDT by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: drewh

OK, let's have a clean "restart" and not some phony reset to another version of RINOcare ...

103 posted on 03/28/2017 4:56:07 PM PDT by mikrofon
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To: drewh

I just heard The PRESIDENt reiterate his effort to restart the health insurance talks. Of course, we have medicaide for the very poor , and Medicare for those that bought that insurance for 50 years. The key is to return to free markets for insurance, Quadruple the number of Doctors through opening the Med Schools and allow government reimbursement to the ER just like we did before.But here is what we do not want. MORE GOVERNMENT INTRUSION INTO OUR HEALTH CARE!! If you want health insurance— BUY SOME! in the open market.We are not going to buy it for you!! That is not fair to us!!Otherwise just get on medicare or get off your ass and buy some. This is AMERICA — not RUSSIA!!FREEDOM!!~


104 posted on 03/28/2017 4:59:09 PM PDT by WENDLE ("Sanctuary" cities break federal criminal law!!-- JAIL!!)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

What is the matter with you? If you start making sense around here it might be catching. Then what?


105 posted on 03/28/2017 5:11:12 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: drewh
just repeal. no need to replace.

the one line bill from AL Congressman Mr. Books is enough.

106 posted on 03/28/2017 5:13:44 PM PDT by cssGA30005
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To: SeeSharp

The cost of developing a new drug is over 1 billion dollar. Three yrs is not enough time to recoup the expenses.

Patent protection for long enough to recoup those costs is one of the reasons that 80% of new drugs are developed here


107 posted on 03/28/2017 5:21:12 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I admit I’m having a chuckle at my own gullability at all this.

It’s easier to read a suspense novel; at least you can read it faster or turn to the last page to see the end.


108 posted on 03/28/2017 5:31:50 PM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: dp0622

It just may take a lot of work to get to the point of a full repeal, even if there is a tacked on replace at the end.

Good to know we’re not just twisting in the wind here though.


109 posted on 03/28/2017 5:33:56 PM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Luircin

I’m guilty of it too to an extent.

It’s a big deal to us, because we detested Obama taking over 15%+ of the economy.

We do not want to see Trump blow it, because this is a rare opportunity, and also because we have such high hopes right now.

It’s hard to let things play out.


110 posted on 03/28/2017 6:21:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: drewh

When the hell will republicans learn to push an agenda? When? Obama and the democrats pushed their evil agenda...polls be damned! Gay marriage was a 70% issue in our favor...did Obama give a crap? No! He pushed ahead. Transwacko bathrooms? No one wanted them....didn’t matter. Pushed ahead. His health care plan vastly unpopular...pushed ahead. All “law of the land” and he got reelected. Republicans literally got elected based on the fact that they promised to repeal this crapcare and they drag their feet. Unfrreakingbelievable. And they blame conservatives? Where were the so called moderate votes for this Ryan garbage?


111 posted on 03/28/2017 6:28:44 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: pfony1

As I take into consideration that Mo Brooks is a member of the House Freedom Caucus ... I can't see them not supporting the bill once it takes the floor. The trick is to get it out of committee. And I confess, I don't know all the rules toward that goal -- which is why Mo needs to talk to us so we can lean on our "representatives". Direct the show, Mo!


112 posted on 03/28/2017 7:03:19 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: drewh

Repeal, yes.

But forget the Replace part. Congress cannot be trusted after that RyanCare sham.

It would be better to keep ObamaCare, which will fizzle out on its own in a year or two.


113 posted on 03/28/2017 7:03:38 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (I told you so)
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To: Vesparado

Just for historical accuracy, it was Ben Franklin’s quote:

“We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.” -In the Continental Congress just before signing the Declaration of Independence, 1776.

A little gallows humor by Ben before they rebelled against the Crown.


114 posted on 03/28/2017 7:53:03 PM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: exit82

Thank you for the correction!


115 posted on 03/28/2017 8:11:19 PM PDT by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: Vesparado

👍


116 posted on 03/28/2017 8:16:51 PM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: Vesparado

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117 posted on 03/28/2017 8:16:54 PM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: SeeSharp

Nice try... And on the surface, a convincing argument by you.

However, patents ARE “Intellectual Property Rights.”

Here’s more reading for the misinformed:

http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/02/25/debunking-myth-patents-create-monopoly/id=78756/

Whether or not you agree that a patent is a monopoly, what do you think will happen to pharmaceutical innovation if patent protection is cut short to only 3 years as you short-sightedly suggested?

Answer: You’ll see a drastic reduction in pharmaceutical innovation. That’s why I said there would be a free-market capitalist response to what you’re suggesting (3 year patent limit).

Do you really want less innovation? How about patent rights for engineering inventions? What’s the incentive to invent anything if there’s no intellectual property rights for your inventions which are your property.

A socialist/Democrap would say your ideas and your brilliance are the property of “the collective” as soon as you invent your widget.


118 posted on 03/28/2017 10:58:36 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
However, patents ARE “Intellectual Property Rights.”

LOL. Yeah, capital letters are real convincing, but not an argument that patents are property. Patents are not property. Patent defenders know this. That's why they add the "intellectual" qualifier.

[your link]

That's got to be one of the silliest arguments I've heard yet. Patents prevent a market from developing so they can't be called monopolies? That is incoherent. The premise does however, completely undercut your next argument.

You’ll see a drastic reduction in pharmaceutical innovation.

As you article sugests, patents retard innovation by constraining the market for new ideas, and by distorting the incentives for innovation into patentable areas and away from unpatentable ones. If drug patents were shortened the incentive would be to reduce production costs. Currently the incentive is to make small changes to existing drugs so they can be repatented.

A socialist/Democrap would say your ideas and your brilliance are the property of “the collective” as soon as you invent your widget.

I say ideas are not property at all, collective or otherwise.

119 posted on 03/29/2017 1:36:50 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: WENDLE

He really needs NEWT in the white House fast!>>>>>>>>>

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Trump was misled by Paul Ryan on health care bill, says Newt Gingrich

Newt Gingrich said that President Trump was misled by House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) into believing that he could pay little attention to the Obamacare replacement bill, and come in at the end and sign it. He made the comments Friday to Sean Hannity on Fox News.

“I was angrier than I want to really admit publicly earlier today,” Hannity admitted, “I’m not as angry now. Now I see an opportunity. And I sense that they’re not gonna make this mistake again, please tell me they won’t do this again this way.”

“Well, first of all you have no idea whether or not they’ll make that mistake or invent a new mistake,” Gingrich offered.

“What do you do know is that Donald Trump is a very smart guy,” he continued. “He just went through an experience that wasn’t what he was told. He had been told that everything was under control, the leadership could deliver, he didn’t have to pay too much attention, come in at the very end and close the deal. And it got to be a total mess.”

Gingrich seemed to imply that Ryan deserved to lose the speakership over the debacle, saying, “I can guarantee you that if this had been one of his hotels, one of his buildings, one of his golf courses, there’d be a lot of personnel changes tonight. And I think what you’re gonna see is that he’s gonna rethink how he’s going to approach the Congress based on this outcome. Because it was so totally, utterly unacceptable.”

“At the same time I think, Paul Ryan is at a real turning point,” he continued. “Ryan’s a very smart guy, nobody should take that away from him. And he knows an immense amount about policy.”

“But he’s gotta decide, in the world of Trump,” he advised, “where you’re doing really bold, really different things, is he willing to spend the time and the energy, listening to everybody, even when he doesn’t agree with them, doesn’t think they make any sense, because only by, we used to use a model of listen, learn, help and lead. And only by doing this, and you’ve talked about it some, only by getting everybody in the dialogue, you have a chance of ultimately getting to the majority. And I think this was an example, that starting at the top, trying to run it through the system is not going to work.”

Trump allies and supporters have sought to put the blame of the repeal bill’s failure squarely on the shoulders of Ryan and the GOP leadership, while the administration has resisted doing so. Instead, the president blamed Democrats for resisting all efforts to repeal Obamacare, and said he would let it “explode” and let them come to him later.

The bill faced opposition from the Freedom Caucus of conservative Republicans Thursday, causing the vote to be postponed. But Friday when concessions were made to the right wing of the party, moderates dropped their support, dooming the bill.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/25/trump-was-misled-by-paul-ryan-on-health-care-bill-says-newt-gingrich/

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120 posted on 03/29/2017 2:19:47 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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