Posted on 03/28/2017 8:46:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
Well I hope Trump knows Ryan is his enemy...because he is.
I fear they’ll come out with Obamacare 2.1 and try to impose that on us...
Trump is pretty smart + Ryan is the speaker that the rest of “his side” provided him with.
I’m just not getting a good feeling about how this is playing out. But I’ll give it some time. It may not yet be obvious what Trump’s long game is.
I think he wants health care that looks a lot like food stamps
That would explain pretty much everything...sadly.
Not a great look when Trump insists that most Republicans don’t want everyone to have access to needed healthcare—unless by that he means that the government should give it to everyone. Which is where either Obamacare 1.0 or 2.0 will land us.
40 million uninsured = 13.5 million households approximately.
Give each household 4000 HSA = 55 billion a year?
Everyone would be buying off the marketplace as with food stamp users going to Krogers and not to the gov’t grocery store.
That’s Trump’s ideal in my mind.
He does intend to give it to the poor. He is not conservative on this issue.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
But no Republicans are advocating taking healthcare (Medicaid) away from the poor—and he is implying that that’s what they want to do.
Those added during ObamaCare expansion into medicaid
But folks making 4x the poverty line aren’t poor and rolling back Obamacare would put insurance and healthcare within reasonable financial range for them again.
But in Obamacare 2.0 those folks would get the new healthcare entitlement (refundable tax credit) anyway.
Senators Portman, Capito, and Collins didn’t see it that way. 3 senators is enough to sink anything.
They’re the ones who need straightening out—not the Freedom Caucus.
Senators will trade.
Which, as I'm sure you know, are two of the three things that command huge majorities in Congress and among the voters.
The only bill that has any chance of passing Congress is one that gives universal basic healthcare to everyone, free of charge. This is what the voters demand, it’s what they want, and the reason they don’t have it yet is because some Members of Congress are too sensible and the rest are too reliant on bribes from the insurance and drug industries.
The fight over a “free market” in basic health services has been over for fifty years.
What we need to fight over (but won’t, because nobody gets how socialized the system was BEFORE anybody ever heard of Obama), are two things: First, what “basic” healthcare excludes, and two, what a liberated insurance industry will be allowed to write policies for.
That there will be a “public option” is a certainty. Either the GOP House delivers it, or their majority will be gone and will never return.What’s controversial on the other side is whether there will be a “private option”, and what the “private option” will be allowed to cover.
Hillarycare (the final bill) specified 5 years in prison and a $50 000 fine for any doctor who took a payment to deliver a service outside of her system. That’s where the Democrats want to go.
A private option to allow you to choose (and to pay for) what you want, and also to allow you to self-insure against the cost can be preserved for the future, but only if the Republicans wake the f*** up and act quickly.
The uninsured population (for the most part) get free care in every ER in the country, right now, and they have done for 31 years.
The notion that, if they were given money, they would be writing checks to hospitals is ludicrous. They don’t pay for medical services, they never have, and they never will.
YOU pay for their services, through an incredibly complicated and stupid system of payment from your employer if you have one, insurance that isn’t really insurance, and wealth transfers through taxation and much higher costs for any bills you can be screwed into paying.
All “full repeal” will do is increase the magnitude of your responsibility to pay for all those uninsured through the mechanisms described above.
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