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JAPANESE POLITICIANS WANT THE ABILITY TO BOMB NORTH KOREA FIRST BEFORE BEING 'DESTROYED'
Newsweek ^ | 3/27/17 | TOM O'CONNOR

Posted on 03/27/2017 11:23:31 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

JAPANESE POLITICIANS WANT THE ABILITY TO BOMB NORTH KOREA FIRST BEFORE BEING 'DESTROYED'

BY TOM O'CONNOR ON 3/27/17 AT 1:58 PM

Top Japanese lawmakers have begun arguing for the capability to launch a preemptive missile strike on North Korea in the face of Pyongyang's increasingly active ballistic and nuclear weapons programs.

In response to militant rhetoric from North Korea, a group of influential Japanese legislators has announced a public campaign to end the World War II-era restrictions, imposed on Tokyo by the U.S., that prevent Japan from initiating military action. The post-war scheme tasked the U.S. with defending Japan from foreign attack but Japanese politicians including ruling Liberal Democratic Party head Hiroshi Imazu and former defense chief Gen Nakatani have said that Japan deserves the right to defend its own interests and should acquire the means to do so.

“Japan can’t just wait until it’s destroyed,” Imazu told The Washington Post Monday. “It’s legally possible for Japan to strike an enemy base that’s launching a missile at us, but we don’t have the equipment or the capability.”

“I believe that we should consider having the capacity to strike,” Nakatani told The Washington Post.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fatbastard; japan; nkorea; nuke
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Your fallout concerns are valid. The proximity to friendly countries is too close for wholesale nuke warfare.


61 posted on 03/28/2017 8:00:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: pissant

I’m of the opinion all they need is a few hours to complete assembly and they’d have their own without us.


62 posted on 03/28/2017 8:47:18 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I would think China would be nervous of having North Korea being in a position to do great harm should the fat one turn on them for tightening the screws?.


63 posted on 03/28/2017 8:52:50 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Joe Boucher
Well, the alternative is to live with Japanese nukes, a lot of them. It is their call.
64 posted on 03/28/2017 8:59:19 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have heard from credible sources that Japan can have a deliverable nuclear weapon in 6 weeks.

That would definitely upset the apple cart.

5.56mm


65 posted on 03/28/2017 9:04:32 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Like Israel.

Can’t blame them.


66 posted on 03/28/2017 9:05:42 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Elsie

German unification offers lessons on how to handle Korean unification. Simply put, it cannot be a union between equals. The only possible way for it to work would be for the South to completely take over the North, in the manner of a victorious nation conquering a defeated one in war. The North would become a colony of the South, and the South would have unfettered power to reshape the North’s government, politics, educational systems, and so on, all in whatever image they choose.

The DMZ would not come crashing down like the Berlin Wall, but would remain in place for at least a decade, maybe more. Northerners would be kept in place, slowly re-educated, and at first allowed to visit the South only in small, controlled groups, for limited periods of time. Freedom of movement between the two halves of the country would be introduced gradually, over a period of many years.

In other words, the model to use is not German reunification, but the United States’ occupation of Japan after World War II.


67 posted on 03/28/2017 9:28:58 AM PDT by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: caww

East Germany merged with the West without issues.


68 posted on 03/28/2017 10:13:17 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Rudy Guiuliani for Head of FBI)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A lot of NK’s military stuff is in caves, embedded in granite mountains. If they need a little help, I can tell them how to do it. (Not directly of course: NSA)


69 posted on 03/28/2017 10:14:18 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A nuclear armed Japan would change the balance of power in china’s eyes. Bolden is correct there could be reunification provided the US pulls out of the peninsula with troops. Let the South take the brunt of the refugee problem, much like West Germany did when the wall fell with the East. Let China seal the border with the North and force the North to stand down and cooperate.

A reunified strong Korea would be an advantage to the Chinese in playing off against their old enemy the Japanese and would take away the albatross around their necks that is the North. If they don’t the Japanese and eventually South Korea will have to go nuclear to counter the North’s reckless behavior and Peking doesn’t want any part of that.


70 posted on 03/28/2017 11:35:51 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: spetznaz

The Norks are like a glass jawed brute boxer, they will win the first round, all the South has to do is survive that first round and then it will be a rout as the Norks equipment is old and if China doesn’t step in they have no resupply.


71 posted on 03/28/2017 11:38:25 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: caww
Even after long series of classes for assimulating into the southern culture many have great difficulty doing so.....to be frank...like so many muslims... they come from an ‘abusive’ leadership society.

Think Berlin. Merkel was reelected last week with little notice here. Korea just ousted their crooked Pro American Prime minister and replace her with a nut.

72 posted on 03/28/2017 11:41:54 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: nikos1121

...”East Germany merged with the West without issues.”...

Not even close to compare with N. Koreas population who are brainwashed, hostile, and fully illiterate to the rest of the of the modern world. Coupled with thousands in the work gulag camps who have been born and raised in that environment with no clue how to make decisions.


73 posted on 03/28/2017 11:46:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: itsahoot

World does appear to no longer make good judgements regarding it’s leaders....probably because the populations actually have little to do with those who choose to run for office....those are all of the same cloth with simply a different party name.

Trump stepped completely outside of that circle....went straight to the people and gave voice to the many silenced by the left for years..few there are who have even attempted so let alone successfully win.


74 posted on 03/28/2017 11:54:46 AM PDT by caww
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This comment should have been made at a secret meeting at the Imperial Palace; not to a Leftist "newspaper."

The publication of what many of us assumed was already long afoot in Japan, could trigger an insane act by the loon in charge of North Korea.

75 posted on 03/28/2017 12:00:21 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Psalm 73

Sounds quite plausible!


76 posted on 03/28/2017 12:03:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Ain't hind sight wonderful!


77 posted on 03/28/2017 12:08:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

our Libs still have a bit of tweeking to do...


78 posted on 03/28/2017 12:09:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wastedyears

let the end users do the beta testing.


79 posted on 03/28/2017 12:10:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert
Is there a real ethnic difference between the populations?

Well...


Until 1981 2 Nephi 30:6, in the Book of Mormon, taught that dark-skinned Lamanites (Indians) would eventually experience a change in the color of their skin should they embrace the Book of Mormon. This passage of Mormon scripture read:

"...their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people."

However, in 1981, the LDS Church decided to change "the most correct book on earth" and switched the word "white" with the word "pure." Some Mormons insist that this was a clarification since the word was never meant to refer to a person with dark skin pigmentation who would magically turn white based upon a conversion to the Mormon gospel; rather, it is claimed that the change referred to a cleaner state of heart. This assumption is definitely not supported in the Book of Mormon since 2 Nephi 5:21 says,

"And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, and they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them."

Furthermore, we find another reference to a change in skin color in 3 Nephi 2:15. This passage reads:

"And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites."

That the context refers to skin color is verified by a number of LDS leaders including Joseph Smith. Mormon author George D. Smith notes that Joseph Smith was given a revelation which foretold of a day when intermarriage with the Lamanites would produce a white and delightsome posterity. George Smith wrote, "This unpublished 17 July 1831 revelation was described three decades later in an 1861 letter from W.W. Phelps to Brigham Young quoting Joseph Smith: `It is my will, that in time, ye should take unto you wives of the Lamanites and Nephites, that their posterity, may become white, delightsome and just.' In the 8 December 1831 Ohio Star, Ezra Booth wrote of a revelation directing Mormon elders to marry with the `natives'" (Sunstone, November 1993, footnote #5, pg. 52).

Second LDS President Brigham Young stated in 1859, "You may inquire of the intelligent of the world whether they can tell why the aborigines of this country are dark, loathsome, ignorant, and sunken into the depths of degradation ...When the Lord has a people, he makes covenants with them and gives unto them promises: then, if they transgress his law, change his ordinances, and break his covenants he has made with them, he will put a mark upon them, as in the case of the Lamanites and other portions of the house of Israel; but by-and-by they will become a white and delightsome people" (Journal of Discourses 7:336).

At the October 1960 LDS Church Conference, Spencer Kimball utilized 2 Nephi 30:6 when he stated how the Indians "are fast becoming a white and delightsome people." He said, "The [Indian] children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation" (Improvement Era, December 1960, pp. 922-3).

During the same message Kimball referred to a 16-year-old Indian girl who was both LDS and "several shades lighter than her parents..." He went on to say, "These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness. One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated."


LDS writer George Edward Clark gives a similar account in his book entitled "Why I Believe." On page 129 he wrote, "The writer has been privileged to sit at table with several members of the Catawba tribe of Indians, whose reservation is near the north border of South Carolina. That tribe, or most of its people, are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon). Those Indians, at least as many as I have observed, were white and delightsome, as white and fair as any group of citizens of our country. I know of no prophecy, ancient or modern, that has had a more literal fulfillment" (emphasis his).

It has also been taught in Mormonism that opposite repercussions could result when a white man abandoned his Mormon faith. For instance, the "Juvenile Instructor" (26:635) reads,

"From this it is very clear that the mark which was set upon the descendants of Cain was a skin of blackness, and there can be no doubt that this was the mark that Cain himself received; in fact, it has been noticed in our day that men who have lost the spirit of the Lord, and from whom his blessings have been withdrawn, have turned dark to such an extend as to excite the comments of all who have known them."

In 1857, Brigham Young declared that apostates would "become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Journal of Discourse 5:332).

Despite the comments from past Mormon leaders, skin color has nothing to do with a person's spirituality. To say 2 Nephi 30:6 was altered merely for clarification and had nothing to do with skin color is without merit. It was a false prophecy, nothing more, nothing less.
 
 
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80 posted on 03/28/2017 12:14:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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