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Helpful but Inadequate: Can Religious Charities Take the Place of the Welfare State?
The Atlantic ^ | 03/25/2017 | Emma Green

Posted on 03/26/2017 6:58:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

President Trump’s initial budget proposal would end aid for poor families to pay their heating bills, defund after-school programs at public schools, and make fewer grants available to college students. Community block grants that provide disaster relief, aid neighborhoods affected by foreclosure, and help rural communities access water, sewer systems, and safe housing would be eliminated. Mick Mulvaney, the director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, suggested recently that even small amounts of federal funding for programs like Meals on Wheels, which delivers food to house-bound seniors, may not be justified.

With billions of dollars worth of cuts to federal social services likely ahead, the wars of religion have begun. Bible verses about poverty have suddenly become popular on Twitter, with Republicans and Democrats each claiming to better know how Jesus would think about entitlement spending. While conservatives tend to bring religion into public-policy conversations more than liberals, the valence is often switched when it comes to the budget: Liberals eagerly quote the Sermon on the Mount in support of government spending, while conservatives bristle at the suggestion that good Christians would never want cuts.

But it’s more than posturing. If government steps back, religious organizations may need to step up. Much of the infrastructure and money involved in the charitable provision of social services is associated with religion, whether it’s a synagogue’s homeless-sheltering program or a large aid organization such as Catholic Relief Services. People like the Cato Institute’s Michael Tanner believe these private services could potentially be expanded even further. While some government programs should be scrapped altogether, he argued, “other programs may well be replaceable by private charity—either dollar-for-dollar, or more likely, they can be done more effectively and efficiently.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charity; poor; welfarestate
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1 posted on 03/26/2017 6:58:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They should.


2 posted on 03/26/2017 7:01:42 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

All government welfare needs to end. Individual, farm, corporate. All.

Does it help some people. Yes. But overall, it is corrosive and destructive. I grew up in it.

At the very least, anyone who obtains welfare should not be allowed to vote for 20 years from the date last received.


3 posted on 03/26/2017 7:04:25 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: SeekAndFind

Things would be better if the fedgov got totally out of the business of MANAGING welfare, as religious organizations provide aid with far better efficiency than federal bureaucrats. Increase the block grants, and close down 90+% of federal bureaucratic oversight.


4 posted on 03/26/2017 7:04:32 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: SeekAndFind

How long before the pyramid scheme known as the welfare state collapses under its own weight?


5 posted on 03/26/2017 7:04:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe that a Christian component to hand outs is a good idea. Why?

Hands-on help is the best way to help people connect so they can get back to work and get off Welfare.

If they don’t want to cooperate, then cut them off cold turkey.

This generation to generation stuff has got to end.

We are spending half a trillion dollars a year on hand outs to people, many of which are capable but do not want to work.

Get them connected and into the pipeline to contacts and work.

Picking up the check at the mailbox each month needs to end.

Give them a helping hand, but no more freebies for life.


6 posted on 03/26/2017 7:05:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: SeekAndFind

yadda yadda yadda. Ya, Trump wants to cut back social programs, and women and children and poor and the minority of your choice will be hardest hit.

Trump wants seniors to go hungry by cutting back funding for Meals on Wheels. He wants to defund PBS, so that means he wants to chop off the head of Big Bird. Sheesh. These liberals make everything into a “sky is falling” scenario. We’re all going to die, life as we know it will end, if Trump’s budget priorities go through.

But these same liberals don’t see the literal threat to our lives from the likes of ISIS. Go figure. Trumped up disasters in the making get their panties in a twist, but the real threats to world peace and our way of life are ignored by the liberals.


7 posted on 03/26/2017 7:05:56 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

Not if they keep bringing illegal and lazy welfare filth in America. Freeloaders not welcome. Let them fix their own dung holes.

Earn your own living or get your family to support your laziness or go away.


8 posted on 03/26/2017 7:06:12 PM PDT by soycd
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To: SeekAndFind

The best welfare is a job. When you take money from me, that is money that I cannot spend in the community.


9 posted on 03/26/2017 7:06:19 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SeekAndFind
Let welfare be a private concern. Let it be promoted by individuals and families, by churches, private hospitals, religious service organizations, community charities and other institutions that have been established for this purpose.

If the objection is raised that private institutions lack sufficient funds, let us remember that every penny the federal government does not appropriate for welfare is potentially available for private use—and without the overhead charge for processing the money through the federal bureaucracy. Indeed, high taxes, for which government welfarism is so largely responsible, is the biggest obstacle to fundraising by private charities.

The Conscience of a Conservative, ch. 8, p. 74
The left has been at this kind of anti-private-charity propaganda for decades upon decades. Meanwhile, the recent private charity surge at Meals On Wheels in the face of federal defunding has proved them utterly wrong for the zillionth time.
10 posted on 03/26/2017 7:09:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: TheTimeOfMan

Anyone who quotes bible verses trying to justify the welfare state is a fool.

God want YOU to reach into YOUR pocket of YOUR own free will and give to good causes.

He is not impressed with you voting for the government to point a gun at your neighbors head and rob them in order to pour money into programs designed to ‘feed the poor’ where half the money is eaten in administration costs and the other half perpetuates generational poverty and misery.


11 posted on 03/26/2017 7:10:23 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: SeekAndFind

NO! The government will never allow competition.

We are witnessing the failure of socialism, it will take another 10 to 20 years. Anything free market is being destroyed verbally. Not in principal, they have no argument. Any help that a church or civic group might do to help the neighbors will be ended sooner or later. The state will respond with their answer, it will fail as all state planning does. Then we as neighbors, can pick up the pieces.

Blessings


12 posted on 03/26/2017 7:11:20 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Enough of the losers!! Find a way to win at all costs!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering that welfare took the place of Christian charities, it would seem that a reversal could happen.

One big difference: There is a moral component to Christian charity. Moral for the recipient that is. Shitheads would have to reform to be continue receiving help.


13 posted on 03/26/2017 7:12:50 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am against, 100% for funding liberal indoctrination, from religious organizations with my tax dollars. IT is not a charity if tax payers are funding the welfare of illegals and all those so called Syrian refugees being imported.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qXL6IB9YKE listen to find out which ‘faith based charities’ are receiving your tax dollars and why.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/24/catholic-church-collects-16-billion-in-us-contract/

Catholic Church collects $1.6 billion in U.S. contracts, grants since 2012


14 posted on 03/26/2017 7:13:20 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: SeekAndFind
Government aid is inadequate.

20% of US children live in poverty.

15 posted on 03/26/2017 7:13:58 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SeekAndFind

They say all this like it’s a bad thing that “poor” families will have to pay for more of their necessities (and maybe cut back on beer cigarettes lotto tickets dope and scratch offs).


16 posted on 03/26/2017 7:14:00 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SeekAndFind

If ILLEGAL ALIENS were ALL kicked out of this country and welfare cheats took jobs...any jobs, and the wealthy LIBERALS ( who claim to really, really, REALLY “care” ), put their money with their mouths are...then nobody would have to worry and the real destitute could be taken care of.


17 posted on 03/26/2017 7:14:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: TheTimeOfMan

He who will not work let him not eat.

Notice it is will not ,not cannot.


18 posted on 03/26/2017 7:15:26 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: SeekAndFind

These people,don’t have any grasp of the actual history of this country.

They ask this like it never could occur, when in fact it was the norm that religious and private charities did that because the government knew its boundaries and was not in the welfare business.

Good God they are inept dolts.


19 posted on 03/26/2017 7:15:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: bankwalker

Ironic that these charities are themselves subsidized through zero taxes and deductions on donations. True charity begins at home. Invite the homeless, feed the poor, take care of the sick.

Revoke tax subsidies for charities and definitely get rid of all gubmint entitlements.


20 posted on 03/26/2017 7:18:30 PM PDT by sagar
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