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In Major Defeat for Trump, Push to Repeal Health Law Fails [Trump Blames Dems]
NYT ^ | 3/24/17 | ROBERT PEAR, GLENN THRUSH and THOMAS KAPLAN

Posted on 03/24/2017 2:12:53 PM PDT by Timpanagos1

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To: dware
No, he didn't. He made us a promise. I voted for him based on that promise.

I voted for jobs. Repeal would have helped but it isn't the biggest factor. Also he has time to try again, although the legislative system will be a bigger challenge.

21 posted on 03/24/2017 2:47:21 PM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: truth_seeker

Move on to tax reform, corporate tax reform, and regulation reform
that will help EVERYONE !


22 posted on 03/24/2017 2:51:44 PM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: palmer
Repeal would have helped but it isn't the biggest factor.

Next to onerous regulations, I'd say it is indeed one of the largest contributing factors. Trump's legacy will be jobs, for certain, but that's likely going to be it. I won't be voting for him, or any other worthless, filthy, lying, backstabbing, traitorous, rotten, disgusting, dirty low down piece of sh*t republican ever. Not one vote, not for any reason.

23 posted on 03/24/2017 2:53:19 PM PDT by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)
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To: wardamneagle
Move on to tax reform, corporate tax reform, and regulation reform

Why? Trump has been neutered by his own party. The leftists will continue to get whatever they want.

24 posted on 03/24/2017 2:54:30 PM PDT by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)
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To: RummyChick

In my opinion, the three steps planned for the Obamacare replacement, was a reasonable idea. If each step was well conceived and set up a marketplace system, instead of a big government bureaucracy, we would have had something. Removing the tentacles of Obamacare required three separate operations with the goal of lowering healthcare costs. Having it done in one step may have been too much at one time. They may not have had the other steps worked out yet and were building as things got figured out.


25 posted on 03/24/2017 3:05:08 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: dware
worthless, filthy, lying, backstabbing, traitorous, rotten, disgusting, dirty low down piece of sh*t

So how do you feel about democrats?!

26 posted on 03/24/2017 3:09:22 PM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: All

I’ve noticed that just about every leftist (and many of the ‘rightist’) news source is now calling this a ‘repeal’ bill.

If only it were, rather than a mere RINO bill rearranging some of the deck chairs on the Titanic.


27 posted on 03/24/2017 3:09:36 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: jonrick46

In theory.

Problem is..we don’t have the type of people in leadership in the House and Senate that we can trust.


28 posted on 03/24/2017 3:09:42 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Timpanagos1
From what I heard Trump say, is that there were some things in RyanCare he did not like. Then he talked about a bipartisan healthcare bill.

Ryan Must Go!

29 posted on 03/24/2017 3:10:37 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: dware
Why? Trump has been neutered by his own party.

It's not a good start, but I would be surprised if Trump gave up at this point. He's faced a lot of adversity and kept going before.

30 posted on 03/24/2017 3:11:23 PM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: palmer
So how do you feel about democrats?!

Add subhuman to the previous...

31 posted on 03/24/2017 3:13:50 PM PDT by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)
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To: RummyChick

I would never say impossible with the talent in this country.


32 posted on 03/24/2017 3:15:19 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: palmer
He's faced a lot of adversity and kept going before.

I agree. He has no other choice but to go forward. He's got several more years. Unfortunately, that won't change the fact that he lost this, bigly, and he did so because he supported a bad bill. He did so because he didn't look at them a month ago and say, "You guys repealed this nonsense 50 TIMES (!!!!!) in the last 6 years, now you bring me this?"

Of course he'll proceed, but it'll be in a neutered fashion.

33 posted on 03/24/2017 3:16:00 PM PDT by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)
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To: dware
You're right.

The media/Democrat (redundant, I know) narrative is firmly in place:

"Trump Fails at Biggest Deal Of His Life"

"More Chaos From The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight"

"Is Anybody In Charge Here?"

Today was like Christmas for the left.

34 posted on 03/24/2017 3:27:03 PM PDT by daler
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To: dware

No president is neutered if they have the power of the EO, the veto pen, and recess appointments.


35 posted on 03/24/2017 3:27:58 PM PDT by kaktuskid (And)
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To: Timpanagos1

His first remark was “I learned a lot about loyalty”. That wasn’t aimed at Democrats or Ryan. It was aimed at those Pubs who gave Pelosi a victory and Trump a defeat.


36 posted on 03/24/2017 3:29:02 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Timpanagos1

I don’t look at this as a ‘major defeat’ for the President.

My opinion of and my trust in the President remains in tact.


37 posted on 03/24/2017 3:32:28 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: dware

Focus on economy. Gotta get out of this under 2% GDP rut for the last 8 yrs.


38 posted on 03/24/2017 3:37:24 PM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: wardamneagle
Gotta get out of this under 2% GDP rut for the last 8 yrs.

I agree. There are other battles. The problem is, the GOP voted FIFTY EFFING TIMES (!!!!!!!!!!!) to repeal while obunghole was in office. Now, NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN...they can't send Trump the SAME DAMNED THING they sent obama??? I think not. I see clearly. We are being played. Hard. I don't like that, one bit.

39 posted on 03/24/2017 3:49:07 PM PDT by dware (My votes will no longer come from the ballot box.)
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To: LS
Good. About time they got blamed for something.

This was a Republican screw up. Put the blame where it belongs.

They threw a hasty and poorly written bill together solely so they could vote repeal on the anniversary of Obamacare's passage. They should have taken their time, worked with their entire caucus to negotiate a bill everyone could live with, and then voted on it. Instead they flew by the seat of their pants, made promises that alienated as many Republicans as they were meant to attract, and saw it all blow up in their face. All the Democrats did in all this was sit back and watch Ryan and his people implode.

40 posted on 03/24/2017 3:56:18 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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