Posted on 03/24/2017 12:45:04 PM PDT by Mariner
WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Republicans, short of votes, withdraw health care bill.
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The prohibition on existing condition exclusions in work-based health insurance is a key ERISA provision that predates Obamacare by decades, but even it required employers to provide everyone insurance (so no cherry-picking) and also required the new employee to have had prior “credible” coverage.
The Obamacare prohibition on existing condition exclusion has NO requirement of prior credible coverage AND applied to the individual (i.e., “exchange”) markets, where sick or injured people can cherry-pick to their hearts content. The disastrous actuarial impacts are EVER SO SLIGHTLY mitigated by the individual and employer mandates ... so of course the House GOP takes away the mandates while leaving the prohibition on exclusion.
If Trump really loved it, he would have gone on television to sell it to The People. He would have shown US what was in it, and why we had to vote for it. He did none of this. I say he wanted it killed, because Ryan & friends had money coming out of it. Ryan is 120% WHORE.....just like Mitch McConnell
When has any insurance company ever voluntarily offered to cover pre-existing conditions? It's economically suicidal, unless the Government is forcing healthy people to buy insurance. Otherwise, no one will buy insurance until they get catastrophically sick.
For that one provision for people with pre-existing conditions, it wasn’t, and that is why no one wants to touch that.
Now that it is front and center, there will have to be something that is palatable, not some shuck and jive about “awww someone will sell ya something”.
Like it or not, that will have to be looked at.
Obamacare is here to stay.
Does that mean the sky is falling?
Ask Ryan and the GOP.
It was their bill, not mine.
That's just wishful thinking from Trump-bashers who jump at any opportunity to cast aspersions in the President's direction.
The only person this is a disaster for is Paul Ryan. The President doesn't write legislation. That's the job of the Congress. The President and his voters made very clear what the parameters of repealing and replacing Obamacare were.
The fact that the President wanted a bill to get passed, and then "fixed", does not mean he gave it his "full, enthusiastic support". That claim is a convenient mischaracterization of the process. The President said that the bill was "incomplete", and proved his willingness to listen to the HFC, the voters, and anyone else who was concerned with the bill as is.
But, due to the awful starting point, which was completely Ryan's fault, the votes weren't there—not even to put lipstick on this pig of a bill.
It's good that the entirely inadequate bill introduced by Paul Ryan, and authored once again by the insurance industry, will not be the bill which replaces Obamacare.
Better to take some short term flak for Obamacare lite not passing, than to have it pass and then get the blame when it doesn't solve any of the problems of Obamacare.
Politics is the art of the possible, and when the President realized that fixing this bill wasn't possible, he demanded a resolution, and expressed his willingness to move on. Sounds about right to me.
Under these conditions, waiting for the Legislature to "get it right" is clearly a better option, whatever the political considerations might be.
The President has to work with elements of the Establishment, plain and simple. I agree with others who have said that this bad legislation was intended to sabotage the President had it been passed, and therefore letting it die was a better option than swallowing a poison pill...
I agree with that, and meant to convey it in my message.
You’re right on target.
Check my “member since” date before you make accusations like that.
You need a plan, you’ve had seven years...if this was the plan then you damned well win, because losing in politics is not an option. Weakness negates weakness until your opposition destroys you.
They look like they aren’t prepared, they aren’t ready for this...and that is fatal.
The portability of healthcare is actually a HIPAA provision that predates the ACA by decades.
However, it only applied to group (employer) policies, not individual policies and not ERISA policies. So, it had some big gaps.
The ACA wiped out those gaps AND wiped out the prior creditable coverage provisions.
Under the ACA, if you are a 50 year old whose had diabetes your entire life, you can get coverage and diabetes CANNOT be a pre-existing condition. Even if you never had insurance before.
The portability of healthcare is actually a HIPAA provision that predates the ACA by decades.
However, it only applied to group (employer) policies, not individual policies and not ERISA policies. So, it had some big gaps.
The ACA wiped out those gaps AND wiped out the prior creditable coverage provisions.
Under the ACA, if you are a 50 year old whose had diabetes your entire life, you can get coverage and diabetes CANNOT be a pre-existing condition. Even if you never had insurance before.
You’ll also see a political ballot box massacre in 2018
And you will get more Obamacare type entitlements.
because the GOP will not have the numbers to stop it,
like they did not have the numbers to stop Obamacare.
Trump have NEVER set any parameters on this bill other than it being terrific, covering everyone, and being affordable.
The Primaries are going to be killing fields. Time to reap the whirlwind.
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It means the current House Republications can’t get their shit together and need some direction.
“Trump is going to support a public option before the 2018 elections. And it will pass easily. That’s going to be his Obamacare reform.”
He said on MULTIPLE occasions during the campaign that he will cover everyone.
Promised it.
Your are right, he AND the Republican congress will advance single payer.
Ryan should resign for not allowing input in to RyanCare by all factions in the Party instead of trying to ram through legislation written by the Insurance lobby.
Healthcare is not a proper function of government. There is no right to healthcare. You have the right to purchase healthcare, but you do not have the right to force me to pay for it.
Well, on the "being affordable" issue alone, this Ryan bill has failed.
But the President did cite several parameters during the campaign. Prescription drug costs, selling across state lines, and allowing free market competition to occur are just a few examples of things he mentioned repeatedly as being needed...
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