Posted on 03/23/2017 12:47:49 PM PDT by NobleFree
GOP House leaders delayed their planned vote Thursday on a long-promised bill to repeal and replace "Obamacare," in a stinging setback for House Speaker Paul Ryan and President Donald Trump in their first major legislative test.
The decision came after Trump, who ran as a master dealmaker, failed to reach agreement with a bloc of rebellious conservatives. Moderate-leaning Republican lawmakers were also bailing on the legislation, leaving it short of votes. [...]
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Not a setback. Exactly what was anticipated.
A message has been sent to moderates
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Uh, moderates are fine with Obamacare. The only one hurt by this is Trump. People who think this hurts Ryan are kidding themselves, or don’t know the makeup of the GOP. He has to get 215 votes to pass ANY bill, and the freedom caucus is a mere fraction of that. But people expect Trump to somehow pass the perfect bill with zero support.
Brilliant. It’s like I’m reading the Huff Post liberals saying we need to model after Europe or nothing to Obama again.
The alt-left: *OMG! They are rushing this through. Meeting in the middle of the night. OMG! They should take more time and explain this. They are taking so much time, they are in complete disarray. OMG!*
Now back to sh!t smith at FoxSnewzz reporting from politico.
“Rebellious conservatives”, good for them. I hope they can get this right soon since Ryan is holding tax relief hostage until healthcare is passed.
“It doesn’t appear that we know actually what the “conservatives” are going to do, as they have no alternatives that will pass the Senate, and they’re so stupid they think repealing an entitlement all at once is going to endear them to the voters. These people are only good at being an opposition party, but cannot govern nor operate as winners on a political level. The whole lot need to be thrown out and replaced with common sense Populists.”
REPEAL PERIOD! It is not a Power or under the Authority of the Federal Government PERIOD
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God Bless
yep
A vote will come when it's ready.
It's an almost impossible task to back up 8 years. In fact, it can't be done. But some of it can be unwound....The mandate being No. 1
Be Patient
The Art of the Deal
A setback per the enemedia, but not a setback if you have the right attitude and I like the way Paul Mirengoff of Powerline puts it - LAST paragraph, in particular:
“If, under a Republican plan, premiums/deductibles continue to rise, people will believe that Obamacare’s replacement made things worse. They will blame Republicans and the GOP will pay a heavy price.
No Republican should support replacement legislation unless he or she is confident it will result in better outcomes with regard to premiums/deductibles. If Democrats won’t support legislation that’s likely to produce that result, Republicans should either push such legislation through without Democratic support (overruling the Senate parliamentarian) if necessary or let such legislation be voted down.
Republicans have no obligation to pass replacement legislation they don’t like in order to patch up Obamacare. The Democrats created the current mess. If they won’t cooperate with the GOP in fixing it properly, Republicans shouldn’t take the political hit that would come with pretending to fix it on their own.”
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/03/tom-cotton-nails-it-on-the-ahca.php
No, in setback to Ryan. They still don’t get Trump’s negotiating and I’m tired of explaining it to people. This was RYAN’s bill. Trump gave him cover while privately meeting with Freedom Caucus, Cruz, and Paul to fix it.
Well stated. Obvious to me that those who view this as failure have never been involved in a large impact negotiation. Stops and starts are usual and sometimes very valuable in getting to the desired end state.
My two favorite Iowa congressmen, Blum and King—typically counted among the most conservative Representatives—were split on it, Rod Blum NAY and Steve King (sellout & embarassment-of-late) YEA.
I LOATHE the fact that the spineless RINO leaders won’t separate the bill into REPEAL and REPLACE bills. The House voted what, SIX TIMES to repeal Obamacare?.... as long as their votes were only for show.
Another bad thing about the combo bill is, a “NO” vote pleases the f’n socialists even more than it does conservatives.
I agree with you, but Nancy Pelosi doesn’t.
Screw Ryan. Furthermore, I am amazed and disappointed that Trump has swallowed the Ryan Kool Aid.
I’m still flummoxed that Trump is behind this ridiculous bill. He’s got a lot to learn.
No Republican should support replacement legislation unless he or she is confident it will result in better outcomes with regard to premiums/deductibles. If Democrats won’t support legislation that’s likely to produce that result, Republicans should either push such legislation through without Democratic support (overruling the Senate parliamentarian) if necessary or let such legislation be voted down.
Republicans have no obligation to pass replacement legislation they don’t like in order to patch up Obamacare. The Democrats created the current mess. If they won’t cooperate with the GOP in fixing it properly, Republicans shouldn’t take the political hit that would come with pretending to fix it on their own.”
Well said.
It didn’t even kill obamacare. Left lots of it in place, and replaced the lapse in coverage tax penalty with an increase in premiums, replaced the subsidies with refundable tax credits.
“And I think everyone should have a pony!”
Really, Well what are you doing to get them one?
God Bless
That is total and complete bull shit and you know it. Trump has endorsed this bill inside and out. Trump has said this is a great bill and has threatened to primary those who vote against it. I would say that makes this as much Trump’s bill as Ryan. So Trump gave him cover? Sounds like they’re partners to me. Call a spade a spade.
Thanks, LS. Good perspective.
It's funny to see the Trump-haters come out of the woodwork whenever they see an opportunity to undermine him.
This isn't a setback for President Trump at all. Eventually, something will be passed, even if it's unrecognizable as the bill that Ryan initially introduced. The more influence true conservatives are able to exert over it, the more likely it will be something that might actually succeed.
I think the President's greatest risk is to sign some kind of GOPe garbage that won't even solve the issues with 0bamacare. So any delays which end up improving the bill are fine by me.
This notion that this is a setback for the President is the height of wishful thinking on the part of Trump's detractors.
This is a setback for Ryan and the GOPe, because the President will still succeed ultimately, by signing whatever is passed. I just hope he's smart enough to make sure that whatever is passed is something that he can be proud of having his name attached to, because that will certainly be the case...
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