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White House presented Freedom Caucus with 'final offer' on Obamacare replacement
CNBC ^ | March 23rd, 2017 | Jacob Pramuk

Posted on 03/23/2017 11:07:07 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: Reagan Disciple

I do not like the bill as is. I am told the deal is the Senate cuts OBAMACARE out. Is that not the deal?


101 posted on 03/23/2017 1:13:06 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: WhatNot

We won’t win by shooting ourselves in the foot and we must have the RIGHT endgame/objective in mind.

The right political objective is the restoration of our Free Constitutional Republic.

If we “press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling” of our true objective, then the steps we take to get there will be the right steps.


102 posted on 03/23/2017 1:15:20 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: WhatNot

True. It is the Senate version that counts.


103 posted on 03/23/2017 1:15:34 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Artcore
Where’s the outrage at Trump trying to feed us a crap sandwich?

I'm not outraged because this is exactly what I expected out of Trump--a crap sandwich.
104 posted on 03/23/2017 1:17:44 PM PDT by Antoninus ("The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately." -Solzhenitsyn)
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To: Lumper20

I don’t see how that gets it through because the House leadership is not promoting that so it probably dies in conference. A full repeal is off the table from the WH and Ryan.

I recant my joke.......being against it is a good thing.


105 posted on 03/23/2017 1:18:55 PM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: PGR88

I have heard this RNC Give us the Senate and we’ll do this and that. Then it became we need the White House too. They have all three. What is the EXCUSE NOW? The Senate Bill is what counts.


106 posted on 03/23/2017 1:21:22 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Jim 0216

I just see passing the bill as is, and Trump fine tuning it with his pen as moving forward to the high calling, if it dies here, we have gained no ground. That’s all.


107 posted on 03/23/2017 1:24:53 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Reagan Disciple

If there is NO FULL REPEAL I am against it.


108 posted on 03/23/2017 1:32:30 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: WhatNot

That is what I thought was the process?


109 posted on 03/23/2017 1:33:50 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20

Good man - this bill doesn’t come close.


110 posted on 03/23/2017 1:35:09 PM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: WhatNot

Maybe that’s the way and maybe that’s what you meant, but when you started talking about Obama drawing first blood it sounded like advocating Trump trying to make law himself.

I like Trump, but I’m not sire his vision for our restoration is in sharp relief yet. I pray it will be soon.


111 posted on 03/23/2017 1:38:38 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Uncle Miltie

“You can’t be such a weasel that you’d accuse other people of a lack of conservatism when they preferred a candidate who was stronger for full Repeal?”

When/where did I do that? I don’t do “Conservative Shaming”.


112 posted on 03/23/2017 2:02:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim 0216
Obamacare kills and contradicts God's word.

Trump has the moral duty to act in whatever manner availble to him, to save as many lives as he possible can.

Acts 5:29
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

I don't consider that being a dictator, I consider that taking the higher ground.

113 posted on 03/23/2017 3:04:14 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot
From "A Man For All Seasons", about the Christian, Sir Thomas More, who was executed for his belief in God and His Word [with my parenthetical comments in reference to our discussion].

Sir Thomas More: What would you do? Cut a great road through the law [the Constitution, our only legal bulwark of freedom against the Satanic tyranny of the feds] to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every [constitutional] law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last [constitutional] law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the [constitutional] laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of [constitutional] law, for my own safety's sake!

114 posted on 03/23/2017 4:01:41 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: gdani
I wonder how many more “final” offers there will be.

Lots.


115 posted on 03/23/2017 4:08:32 PM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: Jim 0216

That “great road” was “cut” by the dummy on March 23, 2010. I’m praying President Trump, with God’s help, will heal that gaping wound.


116 posted on 03/23/2017 4:14:39 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

The greatest destruction by the unconstitutional Obamabuse is the continued violation and erosion of our Constitution, the only legal bulwark of freedom against the tyranny of the feds. That destruction is not defeated by more unconstitutional acts which further erode our only legal protection against tyranny.


117 posted on 03/23/2017 4:21:09 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

I believe there’s a greater destruction, one more dark and sinister than you can possible imagine. But I won’t get too Biblical with you today, my friend.


118 posted on 03/23/2017 4:36:50 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

If you’re talking about the End Times and the spirit of antichrist and Satan’s soon-to-come manifestation as the beast as the Worldwide Islamic Ruler, I’m getting ready to write a book about all of that. He will almost certainly use Sharia Law to implement his satanic devices.

Remember this. The Constitution is the ONLY legal protection against the incursion of Sharia Law in America. Sharia Law is utterly unconstitutional in any form anywhere in the U.S. If you, for your own personal moral code, further erode the integrity of the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land, you (unwittingly) accelerate the ushering in of Satan’s endgame.


119 posted on 03/23/2017 5:32:31 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
The Constitution is only a piece of paper, if men (including Supreme Court Justices) don't follow it, what good is it?

The integrity of the Constitution has already been eroded. You can't erode it anymore than making a law that forces people to buy something they don't want. Because if that stands, your just a hop, skip and jump from the interment camps.

By the way did you know that with an executive order President Trump told the IRS not to enforce the individual mandate for health insurance.

What would you call that, a dictator running amok or getting back to the Constitution?

120 posted on 03/23/2017 6:10:25 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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