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USAF Looks To Retire The F-15C Eagle And Replace It With Upgraded F-16s
The Drive ^ | March 22, 2017 | TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 03/22/2017 6:44:03 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 03/22/2017 6:44:03 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I saw a program just a few days ago which said the F-15 had the best combat record of any fighter, ever.


2 posted on 03/22/2017 6:49:37 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Maybe the F-15 longeron issue is rearing its ugly head, again.


3 posted on 03/22/2017 6:49:59 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Just build 2000 modified F/A-18’s and be done with it. Best fighter aircraft EVER. But not the best aircraft ever, that award goes to the SR-71.


4 posted on 03/22/2017 6:51:53 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

These are the idiotic decisions you can expect until we purge the worthless PC politician/generals that were put into many positions under Obama’s purge of the military.

Only a completely worthless and purely idiotic AF officer would propose such a thing with a micro fleet of F-22s.

Such a decision is not based on need or mission whatsoever. Any officer that would propose or defend such a decision should be summarily asked for their resignation.


5 posted on 03/22/2017 6:53:54 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Sparky1776; militant2; TaMoDee; freedumb2003; PERKY2004; PilotDave

F-16 ping.


6 posted on 03/22/2017 6:56:04 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: yarddog

Best combat record, yes. But the most capable in the world right now is the F-22.

Unfortunately that assembly line was shut down far too early in order to save the F-35 that is a slow-motion train wreck.


7 posted on 03/22/2017 6:56:15 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Let’s see. An almost 50 year old design with known quality control issues? Sounds like something that a politician would want to bet the country’s future on.


8 posted on 03/22/2017 6:59:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Let me get this straight.

We have five different fighter airframes: f-15, f-16, f-18, f-22, and f-35.

The most advanced and combat capable for air dominance is the f-22, but we stopped making them.

The most expensive is the f-35, which has already had budget overruns greater than the cost of the f-22’s entire program budget.

The other three existing airframes are in various states of repairs and upgrades, but still represent a force capable of fighting and winning in aerial combat against any air force in the world. It may not be a tough fight, but we have top quality pilots who are better trained compared to any other force we would face.

Five airframes. Each one deemed the most essential. The newest two are filling an anticipated gap that may never exist... and with the last decade of developments in electronic warfare, may be rendered obsolete if ever employed. ... and our biggest enemies, the ones we have been fighting for the past decade and a half don’t have an air force, except for some Radio Shack drones? Something is terribly wrong here.


9 posted on 03/22/2017 7:14:35 PM PDT by jz638
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Kadena is on Okinawa not Japan. Giving Okinawa to Japan was one of Reagan’s worst moments.

The F16 is a good airplane. Terrible loss rate though due to one engine design. But it is no F15 and can’t do it’s job.


10 posted on 03/22/2017 7:16:42 PM PDT by Seruzawa (I keel you Vorga feelthy.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Other priorities”? Don’t tell me. More golf courses for Senior and Flag Officers? More payola for Lochmart?

Replacing Eagles with Lawn Darts is a pretty stupid move.


11 posted on 03/22/2017 7:20:00 PM PDT by Seruzawa (I keel you Vorga feelthy.)
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To: Seruzawa

Putting women into Navy combat billets and illegal immigrant amnesty were two more bad Reagan moments. He didn’t have many, but some were beauts. Justice Kennedy could be added to the re-do list.


12 posted on 03/22/2017 7:23:01 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

But the F18 came into service only 2 years after the F15. They are both old aircraft.

As nearly as I can tell (and I’m open to debate)the F22 SHOULD have been the heir apparent but for political reasons got shelved. Also as nearly as I can tell the F35 got the nod for political reasons and is not nearly the aircraft as the F22.

Scrap the F15 and start building F22’s again?


13 posted on 03/22/2017 7:23:41 PM PDT by Castigar
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To: yarddog

Yep.

IIRC over 100 ATA kills with zero losses.


14 posted on 03/22/2017 7:25:18 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s stupid that they stopped the production of the F-22 at 187 aircraft.


15 posted on 03/22/2017 7:29:08 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: CCGuy
Best combat record, yes. But the most capable in the world right now is the F-22.

Unfortunately that assembly line was shut down far too early in order to save the F-35 that is a slow-motion train wreck.

According to this 2009 article, Obama and McCain helped canx the F22

16 posted on 03/22/2017 7:35:12 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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I’m sure there is an ideal balance between Technology, capability, cost, total aircraft numbers, per type, in order to cover all contingencies. Technology in my mind can be sacraficed to some degree in order to have numbers and not severely limit capability. What you lose in aircraft capability in order to have a larger force can be made up to some degree with pilot skill. I think total numbers are more important than having an overly capable platform but in limited numbers, and that seems to be what is happening to all aircraft types in general. The force shrinks as capabilities increase. If you run up against a contingency where numbers matter, and you suffer heavy losses, then what?


17 posted on 03/22/2017 7:36:43 PM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and. the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Castigar

The f 18 super hornet is a completely different aircraft from the original f 18. It’s bigger, faster, and more maneuverable.


18 posted on 03/22/2017 7:45:10 PM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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19 posted on 03/22/2017 7:47:43 PM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

You really got to be kidding. The f18 is not in the same class as an F-16. The F-15 completely out classes it


20 posted on 03/22/2017 8:02:47 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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