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Why American Farmers Are Hacking Their Tractors With Ukrainian Firmware
Motherboard ^ | 3/21/17 | JASON KOEBLER

Posted on 03/22/2017 1:08:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase

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To: tiki

If you guys were looking around Charlotte, NC I could point you to my dad and uncle.

They buy/rebuild/refurb/salvage older model tractors. Almost all Massey Fergusons. They had quite a few large and small the last time I looked.

I think these 1100s are still there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSouzl1erxo


61 posted on 03/22/2017 2:36:42 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I’m a fairly good mechanic and looking at this modern era stuff, most of it is beyond me.

The days of changing one’s own tires are probably numbered. Someone will figure out a way to make it impractical.


62 posted on 03/22/2017 2:38:23 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I keep my old Jeeps and a Blazer around that I work on to varying degrees.

Modern era stuff is just too complicated. I love my 16 Tacoma but it’s the last new one I will probably buy for many years if I can help it.


63 posted on 03/22/2017 2:40:19 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Rebelbase

“When crunch time comes and we break down, chances are we don’t have time to wait for a dealership employee to show up and fix it
= = =

Been there, done that - - -

Bailing wire, ‘Farmer Bolts’, Crescent wrench and it’s back working again!


64 posted on 03/22/2017 2:42:09 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: alternatives?

We had a late 70s Cub Cadet mower that was as tough as it came.

My dad bought another in the mid 80s that had hydrostatic drive. It wasn’t anywhere near as good the direct gear drive all-manual tank from a few years before.


65 posted on 03/22/2017 2:44:33 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: wally_bert

That is our problem, most of the used tractors are in the Midwest and East, we are in New Mexico.


66 posted on 03/22/2017 2:45:11 PM PDT by tiki
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To: blam

“Thanks for posting.
I’m glad to hear this.
This, locking you, the owners out, is suppose to be a trend of the future.
It must be stopped, now!”

Why should tractors be different?The Automobile manufacturers are doing the same thing.You won’t even be able to do a tuneup on these new vehicles.


67 posted on 03/22/2017 2:45:23 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Tucker39

I guess it’s all an argument to keep your old machines up and running.


68 posted on 03/22/2017 2:46:50 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: D_Idaho
.. This is stupid.

No, it's a giant FU to the current JD, who deserve every bit of opprobrium hurled at 'em.

Overpriced everything, and now this.

If/When this old '89 318 finally dies, I'll go back to a push mower before buying anything Deere.

69 posted on 03/22/2017 2:49:01 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: wally_bert

The days of changing one’s own tires are probably numbered. Someone will figure out a way to make it impractical.
= = =

Or make it illegal, due to atmospheric rubber dust pollution and safety issues.


70 posted on 03/22/2017 2:49:37 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: posterchild

Yes, they could really cultivate a following.


71 posted on 03/22/2017 2:49:48 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: redfreedom
Made from a late 40’s Wisconsin auger engine, a Minneapolis Moline combine clutch, 1935 Plymouth tranny & a 1952 Nash narrowed rear end.

Whenever I get to thinkin' that I might be a fair mechanic, I read something like that and get instant humility .. LOL !

72 posted on 03/22/2017 2:52:27 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tiki

Dad and esteemed uncle have had some far off buyers from around the country in a few cases.

There was one international years ago. It involved a CAT loader that I was peddling on Ebay for them. There was this very nice fellow from England that grew up in Africa that was buying equipment for the mines.

He was after stuff that wasn’t loaded with electronics. The loader was a late 70s model if I remember right.

My dad and uncle pulled most of the maintenance and repair themselves on the small fleet of construction and farm equipment. This loader never gave any trouble.

The guy was impressed with everything. His employers wanted an inspection from a certified mechanic which was understandable.

They were on the highway to take it to a local heavy equipment guy that was deemed good enough to sign off. About halfway there and inexplicably, the loader overheated and cracked the head.

Sadly no sale. The guy from London was bummed too. We hated it for him.


73 posted on 03/22/2017 2:55:15 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
The days of even doing simple things on a car is almost gone.

Yup. Even driving!

74 posted on 03/22/2017 2:55:34 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Your post is probably more likely.

With a flat tire, some kind of app will be needed to unlock the spare tire and jack, a safety vest and googles with RFID becomes integral to the app that reports your status. Don’t use them and get a fine or worse.


75 posted on 03/22/2017 2:57:55 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: wally_bert

Mine is very early 80’s. It was the same model as the late 70’s. It has hyrostatic drive but has a driveshaft from motor to rear end. Rear wheels have 5 bolts. The ones made now are very cheap. Also can’t get new replacement motors. I have a spare motor. Hopefully if outlasts me.


76 posted on 03/22/2017 2:58:38 PM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: Rebelbase

I have a suspicion that this is to bypass a “kill” switch when the farmers don’t pay their lease on the machinery much the same as a GPS kill switch on cars when you don’t pay your loan.

HOWEVER! If it is indeed a case of repairing or optimizing owned equipment I’m all for it. Not that I would ever do this... But I heard you can disable the ridiculous and stupid UREA system on modern diesel pickups. Again I would NEVER recommend disabling the urea system on a diesel engine if you are a diesel truck or auto owner.


77 posted on 03/22/2017 3:02:48 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: WENDLE

9-year-old Ford Focus. Bought new. Muffler needed replacing. Dealer cost: $1k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mechanics at the dealer took pity on us and recommended an indie mechanic about 20 minutes away. Turned out to just need a new tailpipe. $40 total!!! At the dealer, it’s the entire assembly or nothing.

Had other issues, finally took it to a mechanic friend: we paid wholesale for parts, his work was cheap enough we tipped him $50 and we still saved about another $800.


78 posted on 03/22/2017 3:06:32 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Rebelbase; dayglored
From the article:Gee. That sounds exactly like Microsoft Windows Version 10.
79 posted on 03/22/2017 3:40:48 PM PDT by upchuck (U have not lived today until u have done something for someone who can never repay u ~ John Bunyan)
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To: MeganC

I’m all for it.

I like to have my old beater projects around to remind myself that I can do other things besides run a keyboard/fixing technology.

Where I am which is a manufacturing facility, I hang with the maintenance and repair unit guys a fair amount. I used to do similar stuff and I get refreshers on stuff and sometimes learn something new.


80 posted on 03/22/2017 3:51:26 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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