Posted on 03/21/2017 4:52:39 PM PDT by Enlightened1
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) told Breitbart News exclusively on Tuesday afternoon that he expects House Speaker Paul Ryan will be forced to pull the American Health Care Act (AHCA) before a scheduled Thursday vote because Ryan will not get the votes to pass the legislation. The AHCA has been dubbed “Obamacare Lite” by Paul — a leading conservative critic of the plan — and by other conservatives as “RyanCare,” “RINO-Care,” and “Obamacare 2.0,” since the bill does not actually fully repeal Obamacare and keeps many of the main structures that the now-former President Barack Obama installed in the healthcare system. It has come under intense scrutiny from both sides of the Republican Party — moderates and conservatives are lining up against the bill — and Ryan, despite publicly projecting confidence, cannot find the necessary 216 votes to pass the legislation.
Paul, one of the leading senators out of more than a dozen Republicans in the upper chamber criticizing the bill there, told Breitbart News in this exclusive interview he believes there are at least 35 House Republicans ready to vote against the bill in its current form. And he predicted that, unless some major changes come to the legislation between now and the scheduled vote on Thursday, Ryan will need to withdraw the bill and Republicans will have to start from scratch with a new bill and a new strategy on Obamacare.
Paul said in the in-person interview at his U.S. Senate office in the Russell Senate Office Building:
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Grover Norquist makes a great case for this bill:
The opposition is coming mostly from leftists and from the Mark Levin/Beck crowd.
Your question (answered often btw)
“If a repeal bill could get thru the Senate a year ago, what can’t it now?”
Answer: A year ago the Dems didn’t bother with a filibuster because they knew Obama would not sign it.
Now you can sneer at that, or you can accept it as fact. They had no need to go to the administrative effort to filibuster when it would not be signed. Now that there is a risk of signature, they would filibuster.
We don’t have 60 votes. In 2009, they did.
What’s his plan that will pass in reconciliation? The dems will filibuster any one of those past repeal bills that was sent up. Nuclear option is a pipe dream.
Face it, Obamacare is here to stay
I’m beginning to think we need some sort of rule that people who run for president and lose, need to shut their traps for at least 6 months after the election.
This sounds like a bill that never should have been drafted in the first place. Moderates and conservatives hate it for two different reasons:
1. Conservatives hate it because it keeps 95% of Obamacare intact.
2. Moderates hate it because they know it isn't going to reduce insurance premiums at all -- which means they're going to lose their seats in 2018 if it passes.
The GOP needs to pass a bill that meets ONE important condition: It has to save people money, or this is all just a waste of time and a political disaster in the making.
Limbaugh doesn’t like it either. Ryan’s bill doesn’t allow for sale of insurance across state lines, for one thing.
Wrong. Trump promised "repeal and replace" at every rally. He also promised a "great plan" that will "take care of everybody". If that's a "sales pitch" it's the one Trump won on. Most of the people who would lose coverage are the millions who lost coverage from work due to Obamacare, or couldn't afford it in the first place. I'm all for making sure illegals aren't covered, but it's dishonest to say only or even mostly illegals would lose coverage.
The bill Paul is supporting, is just that.
Sounds pretty darned good to me.
Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, what a waster of fresh air.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if that were Trump’s strategy all along. Campaign for it so he looks like a team player & pick up the pieces when it crashes.
Pull this abomination and come out with a REAL repeal & replace bill that will actually pass the House with Freedom Caucus support. It will have to overcome a potential filibuster in the Senate but there are MANY ‘RAT Senators in Red States up for reelection in 2018. These Senators will either allow closure of the bill or many of them will be faced with defeat in 2018. The reason THEY will face defeat is because THEY will own Obamacare as it enters its final death spiral.
Show some guts congressional Republican leaders!
There isn’t any bill that will reduce costs in an aging population. You know this.
Trump is president not because some hard core right wing conservatives in Texas voted for him. He’s president because he flipped some Obama voters in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin. Those guys are not red meat conservatives. They Voted Obama.
They voted Trump this time because he said he’d repeal and replace (YES, IT WAS BOTH, LOOK IT UP) and he said he’d build a wall. They don’t give a damn about RINO GOP or staunch conservative GOP. They don’t care about GOP at all. They have been screwed and Trump was the only one who told them he would start to unscrew them.
TRUMP IS AND NEVER WAS A CONSERVATIVE. He’s a populist and he is why Hillary is not there. The GOP conservatives couldn’t even get the nomination, let alone beat Hillary.
Trump saved you from her. It’s time to stand with him.
Dems did not attempt to filibuster those bills. Knew Obama would not sign. Pure Kabuki theatre
IT IS EASY TO REPEAL OBAMACARE - STOP LETTING THE LIBERALS CONTROL THE AGENDA
TELL THE PEOPLE THAT THE CURRENT COST OF OBAMACARE IS $400,000 PER PERSON
ONLY ABSOLUTE MORONS AND LIBERALS (but I repeat myself) CANNOT SEE THERE IS SOMETHING HORRIBLY WRONG WITH THAT
I don't know why someone like Rush Limbaugh would make a big deal about this. Eliminating state barriers to insurance would probably save customers no more than 5% on their premiums.
You are right and the way they are getting that number is pure sleight of hand. They are assuming that if they maintain the mandates and the pre-existing condition provisions, but not the individual mandate and penalties, then the premiums will be so high that millions of healthy people will simply opt out of buying health insurance. This is true, but they are referring to it as "losing their health care". Not exactly an honest description.
The "refundable tax credits" are a complete sham also. Obamacare gave subsidies directly to the insurers. Ryan-care does this kabuki dance whereby the patient gets a refundable tax credit, even if he didn't pay any taxes, and the payment goes directly to the healthcare provider. In the end it's exactly the same thing.
First, show me just one time when Trump said “just repeal”.
Second, are you aware that President Trump is fulfilling HIS campaign promises, not what you might have preferred?
More like repeal and re-enact. We should call this bill Amabo-Care - the mirror image of Obama-Care.
And these are the ones who are going to turn around and vote for Democrat candidates in House and Senate elections all across America in 2018 if their insurance premiums are even one penny higher in 2018 than they are in 2017.
There isn’t any bill that will reduce costs in an aging population. You know this.
Sure there is. Reduce the Medicare eligibility age to 50. That will put a huge cohort of people on a government-run plan that reduces cost simply by setting its own rates for medical procedures.
P.S. -- I don't give a sh!t about Obamacare one way or another, so it's easy for me to "stand with Trump" on this one. After my own medical insurance disaster last year I figured out a way to get an Obamacare exemption and worked around the system myself. Personally, it wouldn't matter to me if insurance premiums tripled every month for the next two years, or if every insurer went out of business tomorrow.
Except for the part where your taxes are paying for everyone else including illegals.
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