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Trump EPA Grants Michigan $100 Million to Fix Flint Water System
breitbart ^ | KATHERINE RODRIGUEZ

Posted on 03/19/2017 2:27:41 PM PDT by davikkm

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To: DoughtyOne

“you can’t just condemn the citizens of that city to live with the health problems or crumbling infrastructure.”

YOU CAN AND YOU MUST “Condemn” people to live with their choices. Good God, man!!!!! I do not owe people money because they vote democrat.

Infrastructure spending has been code word for “the g giving out welfare benefits to democrats and unions” since about 1400BC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because DT is now giving out my money, and picking winners and loser, and enriching unions, and letting democrats off the hook for their bad behavior, does not make it good.


41 posted on 03/19/2017 3:46:23 PM PDT by Lord Castlereagh
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To: McGavin999

Waste of money when dems do it, and waste of money when repubs do it. Welfare for unions. And, yes, I’ve been unhappy with the g. wasting my money for about 40 years now.


42 posted on 03/19/2017 3:49:24 PM PDT by Lord Castlereagh
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To: davikkm

Does this guarantee a Trump win in Michigan in 2020???

This restores clean water to a mostly black community and brings in lots of jobs that will boost the lagging economy in Flint.

Look for liberals to freak out when they discover that the Warrern-Franken ticket is doomed.


43 posted on 03/19/2017 3:52:44 PM PDT by proudpapa (Trump Pence earned it.)
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To: keving

Welfare is welfare by any name.


44 posted on 03/19/2017 3:52:48 PM PDT by Lord Castlereagh
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To: Lord Castlereagh

You’re argument will have a lot more power, if you swear off driving on public interstates and freeways.

While you’re at it, don’t go to hospitals for your health care.

While you’re at it, don’t take Social Security or Medicare.

The folks paying for these things could quite easily object.

By the way, while Flint may be a hell hole, the policies that brought it to that point WERE NOT exclusively it’s own.

I’m not here to defend poor choices, but the federal government has made a number of very poor choices over the last twenty years that have impacted cities and states across this nation very negatively.

Many of them would be in a much better position financially if it weren’t for the all out war on U. S. workers and jobs in this nation.

BTW: This has nothing to do with a union position either. I detest them.


45 posted on 03/19/2017 3:53:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

You are a liberal democrat who believes in massive FED GOV spending. The roads I drive on in VA should be paid for by Virginians. If they are not, that is no my fault. It is the fault of liberals like you who believe in the fed gov paying for everything.

My hospital is privately owned. Liberals have a long history of believing that all hospitals are gov owned, when most are not. Liberals then believe that they SHOULD be gov owned. ALL my heath care comes from my wife’s private ins. plan.

I do not take SS or medicare. If I did, however, that would not make those programs moral, good, or just. Liberal democrats like you love SS and medicare.

I do not owe the citizens of flint a damn dime.

Your love of fed gov spending now that DT is in the white house speaks volumes.


46 posted on 03/19/2017 3:57:55 PM PDT by Lord Castlereagh
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To: blu

And, when it is not finished, Trump can get in the pols faces and say, “You, the democrats, this is a prime example of why this country is ****##-up.” No more money for you.

Just in time to set the precedent... because Cali is soon to be coming and beggin’ the red states to pull them out of the hole.


47 posted on 03/19/2017 4:05:53 PM PDT by Texaspeptoman (Even canabels get feed up with people... sometimes.)
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To: Lord Castlereagh

LOL. So the funds the tax base sends to Washington should never be returned to states for projects? It makes me a Liberal Democrat to recognize this?

You hospital may privately owned, but guess what, it gets federal government dollars. You didn’t know that either?

Yes, you just believe all this all you want. Never mind if you’re missing it by a mile.

I don’t like them either, but when the system is set up so that your money is diverted into the general fund, you either play along or go without.

As for what situation you are in, too young, or you have a nice pension, not everyone does have a nice pension. Financial situations can come up so that even the person who tries to do the right things have to play along and use those types of government programs. That doesn’t make them evil. Until something else comes along, they’re pretty much the only game in town.

It doesn’t make someone a Leftist to recognize that.

Well, I didn’t owe you a damn dime to build the roads around you either, but the federal government forked over in part for them. As I said, don’t drive on them if you’re all in on your beliefs. Show some moral fiber ace.

You are a clueless wonder. Where do you think the federal government gets it’s funds? It’s gets them from the tax base in each state. Some of that money is returned to the states for special projects.

Oh my gosh, you’re just finding all this out.

You poor thing.


48 posted on 03/19/2017 4:06:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

LOL. You poor thing. LOL. Poor thing, you.

So, my hospital gets federal dollars. Prove it. Go ahead and prove it. IF it does, you think this is just, good, and right, and should continue. This makes you a liberal democrat.

Michigan sends money to EPA. You think this should continue. Liberal democrat, you.

You are a clueless wonder, ace, you poor thing, and you believe in fed gov spending on a biblical scale. You just figured this out, you poor thing?


49 posted on 03/19/2017 4:13:33 PM PDT by Lord Castlereagh
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To: factoryrat
I'll take any of them over anything in Oregon, the most hated state on our list. We just put our home north of Astoria on the market and look forward to being done with the left coast for good.

Two years ago we sold our primary home in Tacoma and moved to Michigan. I grew up near Detroit spending weekends on Pontiac Lake.

Currently near Gaylord and love every minute of life here upnorth. Got a pileated woodpecker living across the road from us who eats breakfast near our kitchen window every morning.

50 posted on 03/19/2017 4:27:58 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Lord Castlereagh
LOL. You poor thing.

LOL. Poor thing, you.

When it's money for your roads or you local hospital, you don't seem to mind a bit when the government forks over.  Why do I say this, because you don't refuse to drive on those evil roads or use the services of that evil hospital.

So, my hospital gets federal dollars. Prove it. Go ahead and prove it. IF it does, you think this is just, good, and right, and should continue. This makes you a liberal democrat.

I worked for a hospital in a chain of twenty hospitals.  They were part of a privately owned non-profit.  During construction projects they got state and federal funding for portions of the projects.  The money had originally come from my state.  I don't see it as evil for some of that money to be returned to help facilitate a project that would help the very public that paid the taxes.

Michigan sends money to EPA. You think this should continue. Liberal democrat, you.

I don't support the EPA continuing to exist.

You are a clueless wonder, ace, you poor thing, and you believe in fed gov spending on a biblical scale. You just figured this out, you poor thing?


The government in our grand-parents and parents day forked over part of the funds to help build the infrastructure we take for granted today.  Our government today will fork over part of the funds to build back our infrastrucure for the generations to come.

This is not evil.  Tossing money away for no material gain is.  Our govrnment is purchasing new equipment with our tax dollars.  New water construcion projects, roads, bridges..., these are things that people from all over the U. S. need and use on a daily basis.

Some things are necessary and others aren't.  What is being done here is necessary.


51 posted on 03/19/2017 4:30:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: davikkm

Proof that Trump is a not racist that will be ignored.
Proof that Trump takes action to get real things done that benefit Americans that will be ignored.
Proof that the new EPA is not going to neglect people’s water that will be ignored.???

I say BS, I grew up in a NE city, they all have 100 plus year old water sewer and gas lines, I don’t think the rest of us should have to replace them.
I live in Texas we have new everything including schools. Will we now be forced to educate all the illgals you forced on us place on us plus build new schools in the older northeast cities too?
Sorry libbies raise higher soda sugar gas or tobacco taxes, BUT that aint my problem. Why should we Trump voters in the rural red states have to give libbies free stuff. Oh, that’s right we need the votes.


52 posted on 03/19/2017 4:35:48 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: DoughtyOne

Liberal democrats like you think it is necessary for farm boys in Montana to labor to send their property to democrats in Flint. Conservatives do not think this is “necessary” at all.

Only a retarded liberal democrat would say,

“The federal government pointed a gun at your head and took your property to build a road in VA. Therefore, you may never drive on the road unless you are also a retarded democrat.”

“You didn’t build that,” is a FAMOUS saying of your God, Barack Obama.


53 posted on 03/19/2017 4:36:52 PM PDT by Lord Castlereagh
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To: DoughtyOne

but the fed should only spend on fed things like interstate roads and bridges not local plumbing, or local state or county roads or bridges. Those are local expenses.


54 posted on 03/19/2017 4:40:34 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: MarMema

Yeah, I didn’t want to leave Michigan after living there for 40+ years, but you have to go where the work is. The only reason I moved out here is my in-laws, and the fact that it’s not related to the auto or machine tool industry. Jobs are plentiful and there’s plenty of industries here looking for people with actual heavy manufacturing experience.

As to the mention of Pontiac lake, I have family and friends who worked for the DNR there. Lots of good times, especially at the gun range there.


55 posted on 03/19/2017 4:42:45 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: ColdOne

He needs to safeguard the American tax payers money and set up a watchdog board that will make sure the money is spent on the water system


56 posted on 03/19/2017 4:43:10 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Arm_Bears; All
"Not the job of the federal government."

Noting that I gladly voted for Pres. Trump and do not regret doing so, I agree.

Patriots need to get constitutionally low-information Trump up to speed on the fed’s constitutionally limited powers, including limited power to appropriate taxes.

Trump needs to either put stop such spending, or lead the states to amend the Constitution to authorize the feds to tax and spend for such purposes.

57 posted on 03/19/2017 4:43:25 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ronnie raygun

that’s funny. Have you not heard of cost overruns. Let’s call Boston about their little tunnel.


58 posted on 03/19/2017 4:46:13 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Lord Castlereagh
Liberal democrats like you think it is necessary for farm boys in Montana to labor to send their property to democrats in Flint. Conservatives do not think this is “necessary” at all.

I don't mind if you call me a Democrat.  Haven't voted for one in my life, and I don't have to prove anything to you.  I know what I have supported over my life.  None of it was backed by the Left.

Only a retarded liberal democrat would say,

“The federal government pointed a gun at your head and took your property to build a road in VA. Therefore, you may never drive on the road unless you are also a retarded democrat.”

Since I didn't say that, I'll let you figure out who did, and take it up with them.

You hissed an moaned about the federal government helping to fund highways.  I merely pointed out that if that is what you truly believe, you should avoid using those roads.  If you don't like the suggestion, maybe you should rethink your objections.

“You didn’t build that,” is a FAMOUS saying of your God, Barack Obama.


You're having a hard time coping aren't you.

There is nothing evil about the federal government returning tax dollars to states and municipalities.  If you think about it, that is the federal government returning funds to localities across the nation.

In another article on this forum, there was talk about Trump already cutting over $100 billion of the nation's expenses.

It is my expectation that Trump will spend more than you like in some ways and realize savings that you appreciate in other ways.

Hopefully we'll get the best of both worlds, our infrastructure being brought up to date and our nation better off for other cuts he is implementing.



59 posted on 03/19/2017 4:51:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

You’re a liberal democrat who believes in unlimited federal government spending.


60 posted on 03/19/2017 4:53:10 PM PDT by Lord Castlereagh
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