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What Was the Point of Winning the Election?
Townhall.com ^ | March 19, 2017 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 03/19/2017 5:26:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Donald Trump won the Republican nomination because nobody believed the Republican @ssholes in Washington anymore.


21 posted on 03/19/2017 6:19:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: HypatiaTaught

But Bush Sr. Was more of a continuation of Reagan vs Dukais

Bill Clinton got to ride on the economy, taxes that Regean set up. Plus price of oil/gas was super cheap in 1990s.

I think the beginning of the divisive political grid lock and the “Clld Civil War” began into the Bill Clinton presidency impeachment.

Why we need a two term Trump and a two term successor as the Dem party goes further left off a cliff as it tries to create a majority out if a bunch of non-white interest groups offering unsustainable free stuff to buy votes


22 posted on 03/19/2017 6:20:02 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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To: Kaslin

Wrong. A true conservative plan would have phased out completely the tax exemption for employer-provided plans, at the rare opportunity they have to do so in tandem with a significant, offsetting, income tax rate cut.

That would have simultaneously improved the clean economic incentive effect of lower income tax rates while getting the healthcare market distortion of employer linked and tax exempt insurance.

Further, not only should health insurance sales across state lines be allowed, but the entire McCarron Ferguson Act that had inhibited such should be repealed.

Finally, the Obamacare federal mandates, from requiring insurers to cover offspring through age 26 (if some want to buy and some want to sell such coverage, great—but a mandate is completely out of order), to cover pre-existing conditions (which larger insurance pools obviate the need for anyway), and to limit risk-based pricing should all be repealed. The feds have no business in this at all.

Does Ryan want to reform Medicaid? Let him do it later in another bill. That Trump has completely rolled on this and is repeating the Ryan lie that they can’t repeal because of reconciliation does not bode well. Unfortunately, it fits all too well with him listening more and more to his top aides and cabinet secretaries who are Democrats:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-white-house-new-york-moderates-spark-infighting-and-suspicion/2017/03/18/51e3c4d2-0b1c-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?utm_term=.c879398a747e

(Not just Ivanka and Jared and Gary Cohn but more—such as this Dina Powell I don’t think I had even heard of before.)


23 posted on 03/19/2017 6:21:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jim Noble

I am not sure paying for Obamacare is the main problem that voters have.

As someone who purchased my own insurance for a number of years (I have recently changed jobs and no longer do so), the problem for me was the disparity between the effects of Obamacare on the self-employed and those in employer provided plans. Quite frankly, the cost of Obamacare became prohibitively expensive for me over a three year period. Health insurance was one of the primary reasons I changed jobs. The employer provided insurance I have now is probably the best I’ve ever had, and I contribute very little to it.

As an aside, I think it grossly unfair that many highly compensated professionals have “Cadillac plans” which pay for things like greatly reduced prescription drug prices and orthodontic work, all of which are completely tax free to the employee.


24 posted on 03/19/2017 6:22:33 AM PDT by independentmind (In te Domine confido non confundar in aeternum)
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To: PTBAA

This is true, remember when Boehner was forced out- Repubs got Ryan to run for Majority and Ryan had his conditions for running, etc. The other choice other then Ryan was just as bad. In the end. they chose Ryan.


25 posted on 03/19/2017 6:24:07 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly.


26 posted on 03/19/2017 6:25:42 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: no-to-illegals

Yep.


27 posted on 03/19/2017 6:27:39 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: no-to-illegals

If Trump backs conservatives in primaries against these rinos and is successful in 2018 he will then be able to fully turn this country around.


28 posted on 03/19/2017 6:28:10 AM PDT by hardspunned
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No, you need to find a conservative who can beat him, otherwise you are a RINO.

I have never voted for a demonrat and never will.

29 posted on 03/19/2017 6:28:36 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: PTBAA

Excellent point


30 posted on 03/19/2017 6:30:04 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Kaslin

The purpose of the Republican Establishment is to maintain the illusion of there being opposition to socialism, while carefully avoiding real opposition to anything the Democrats really want to do.

There is no real Republican-vs-Democrat fight. The real fight is between the Establishment and the rest of us.


31 posted on 03/19/2017 6:35:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s certainly not perfect but the difference in what is and what might’ve been makes one wonder how that question could even be asked.


32 posted on 03/19/2017 6:35:46 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: HypatiaTaught

This election, just slowed the destruction of America because not only does Trump have to fight the Dems he has to fight the Repubs who are stabbing him in the back and plotting to either get him impeached, to fail, or make a one term President. He has to fight the State Dept, CIA, FBI, liberal Judges. He has to fight the media. Now has to fight the snowflakes at colleges, Professors, etc.

Obama had tremendous loyalty among his staff, FBI, CIA, State Dept, Judges, media, journalists, college folks, administrators.


33 posted on 03/19/2017 6:37:42 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: PapaBear3625

You can’t have a basketball game unless there are two teams on the court. Unfortunately our side is the Washington Generals....


34 posted on 03/19/2017 6:40:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin
A golden opportunity in the cause of liberty will have been squandered because, after seven years of talk, Republicans could not do the one thing they told us they would

We elect GOP politicians to run, constrain and hopefully shrink the size of the federal government. But, they catch Potomac Fever the moment they come to DC. This is the contagious disease that makes politicians forget why they were elected. There is no recovery from this disease.

They grow increasingly sympathetic with big government programs. They also become intoxicated with their power to spend money.

They quickly become acclimated to the political culture and lavish lifestyle of the DC Beltway crowd. In short order they start focusing on serving a NEW constituency, one that rewards fiscal profligacy, the expansion of government, the reduction of personal liberties, and self aggrandizement. Before long, they are transformed into swamp dwellers.

35 posted on 03/19/2017 6:48:09 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: PapaBear3625

Best comment I’ve seen in a long time. Well done!!!


36 posted on 03/19/2017 6:48:53 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Kaslin

Point of winning was to secure a different direction. My point is similar to the author’s. mac/ryan stand in the way


37 posted on 03/19/2017 6:49:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: ground_fog

Ditto


38 posted on 03/19/2017 6:50:29 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: PTBAA

Double Dittos


39 posted on 03/19/2017 6:52:01 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: PapaBear3625

Triple Dittos


40 posted on 03/19/2017 6:57:15 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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