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To: ransomnote

> “I consider John McCain’s military service heroic.”

I’ve done extensive research on McCain and I see no way for any reasonably informed person to arrive at your view.

McCain was the same in character before his service, during his service, and after his service. His character frankly stinks.

He was the son and grandson of Navy Admirals. He had to go in the service or risk being ostracized by his high ranking family members.

When he was in flight training, he flunked multiple times and was kicked out. Only after his father pulled rank was he reinstated.

When he served, he served a total of 19 hours in combat before he was shot down and he was shot down for flying too low against instructions because he was incompetent.

When he was captured, he let it be known or it was found out that his father was high-ranking. After that was discovered, he was treated better than all the others. The only time he was mistreated was when he refused to ‘confess’ and be released.

The reason McCain refused early release is because Admiral Stockdale was the Commanding Officer of the POWs inside the Hanoi Hilton and he ordered every POW to refuse unless they all were to be released together. McCain knew if he disobeyed orders he would stain his family’s honor forever. So he was no hero in this, he was commanded to do what he did. Following orders is not an act of heroism.

After he was released, his faithful loving wife who had waited patiently in desperation for his safe return was dumped by him because the stress of worrying if would have ever return safely caused her to put on weight, not a lot, but enough for him to dump her in favor of a much younger cuter rich girl whose daddy was linked to the mob in Arizona.

His new girlfriend’s father set him up to take Goldwater’s senate seat when Goldwater retired. McCain had to learn how to talk like a conservative to be elected.

Arizonans do not love him but they are a red state and they have no one else to vote for. When there are primaries McCain has enormous amounts of dirty money line up behind him with mob thugs lining up democrat crossovers to bury his GOP opponents. Then he gets reelected because Arizonans have nowhere else to go.

This man is a scumbag of the first order.

How anyone can buy the lie he was ever a hero is either ignorant or suffers from impaired reasoning. In any case, it is an insult to the many American soldiers who rotted and died in the jungles of Vietnam and who never received even one-tenth of the fake citations that this scumbag received.

And his citations and medals? Every one of them a lie and fabrication. They are not written in accordance with the DOD manuals for citations. They describe no heroic actions in detail. There is nothing he did that merits a hero citation. He’s a walking lie. The reason he received so many citations and commendations was because he was an ‘Admiral’s Boy’ and his father wanted him to be like Kennedy and be a war hero. It was all manufactured. His father wanted him to be in high office and be President. So he dumped his loyal first wife for a new one that could have him ushered in to take Goldwater’s seat.

He’s 80 years old. He won’t be around much longer. And when he’s gone, the public will learn the truth about this scumbag.


70 posted on 03/18/2017 9:35:32 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

When McCain returned from Vietnam he found his wife was crippled in an accident. He allegedly began running around with various younger women and finally settled on a rich one whose family had connections with the mob.


71 posted on 03/18/2017 9:40:56 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Hostage

“And when he’s gone, the public will learn the truth about this scumbag”.

Doubtful,mon ami......


72 posted on 03/18/2017 10:03:55 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: Hostage

Well, the research I’ve done doesn’t agree with the research you’ve done. I move with caution when disparaging military figures because it’s the pathway most often taken by the left. One of the most shameful public displays in recent memory was the left’s treatment of Petraeus (sp) when he was returning to Washington to report on Iraq. The left set up such a cacophony of slander prior to his arrival that there was a parade float somewhere touting him as General Betray-us. That was Pelosi’s name for him. She told the public he was traveling to Washington to lie, lie, lie to the public. This was before his personal life (adultry) was known - she had nothing but hatred for his political ideology to go on. So knowing that the left believes that there is no such thing as honourable military service, and that when the left perceives a person in the military is respected for the service they target and defame that service - I would have to see good info myself before discarding the research I’ve already done. Not saying what you say can’t be true but I’m careful not to join into the left’s slander of military people based on propaganda. Yes, I researched him well years ago - the question in my mind is did you read the left’s slander, unfounded competitive comments by peers or accounts of people whose reputations are worthy of respect? Lots of book, articles, quotes on military people there and all of it is sworn to be “valid” and yet point to any military ranking officer and there’s rumor that they are scum and rumor that they are honorable.
I fail to see how a reasonable person expects netizens to drop all prior information gathered and run with the latest accusations as fact without at least checking the sources out and reading for oneself.


73 posted on 03/18/2017 11:02:20 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Hostage
He’s 80 years old. He won’t be around much longer.

His mother is 105 and still going.

Her twin only made it to 99.

And when he’s gone, the public will learn the truth about this scumbag.

There will always be scumbags.

We don't know for certain that McCain caused the USS Forrestal fire.

He might be responsible for a lot of other stuff, but most reliable accounts say he didn't start the fire.

83 posted on 03/18/2017 1:32:38 PM PDT by x
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