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Meals on Wheels is ‘not showing any results’ only if you ignore all these results
https://www.washingtonpost.com ^ | 03/16/2017 | By Christopher Ingraham

Posted on 03/16/2017 8:20:36 PM PDT by BackRoads775

At a news conference Thursday, Mick Mulvaney, President Trump’s budget chief, defended proposed cuts to the Meals on Wheels program, which provides food aid to needy senior citizens, by saying the program is one of many that is “just not showing any results.”

Meals on Wheels is a nonprofit group that receives funding from the federal government, state and local governments and private donors. “We serve more than 2.4 million seniors from 60 to 100+ years old each year,” the organization writes. “They are primarily older than 60 and because of physical limitations or financial reasons, have difficulty shopping for or preparing meals for themselves.”

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To: Kipp

As I understand it, the customers paid a small amount (on a sliding scale based upon their income) to help cover some of the costs. The recipients who had very low incomes were charged nothing. If the federal government funded any of this is was a minuscule percentage because it is designed to be a very low cost & low overhead operation with most of the work effort being by unpaid volunteers using their own vehicles (e.g., without being reembursed for gas—although you could deduct your mileage as a charitable donation).


21 posted on 03/16/2017 9:33:56 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: Dave W

You are completely correct. How the hell are we ever going to seriously address entitlements when we can’t even give the budget a haircut.


22 posted on 03/16/2017 9:44:53 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Finalapproach29er

But if they can’t get a job they should starve.


23 posted on 03/16/2017 10:01:06 PM PDT by The Cuban (again Freaking French illegal immigrabta,)
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To: Hildy
I'm sitting here laughing. I got MOW for a while the second time I had chemo, in 2015. They had to bend the rules for me because I wasn't 60, but I was going hungry, I had no one to help me, and I was helpless. Man, I was so sick from that chemo (i don't tolerate it well at all)
So I got it. It was absolutely the WORST tasting stuff I've ever eaten in my life! I still got it for a while and choked it down, because it was that or nothing. Finally I cancelled anyway. Oh my gosh, it was awful. sorry, but it was.
24 posted on 03/16/2017 10:27:11 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Happiness is the spiritual experience of living with love, grace and gratitude.... David Waitley)
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To: BackRoads775; All

I’m 85+ single,live alone in a rural area, and because of legal technicalities can’t drive. I’m living on a poverty level SS (not SSI) income. Yet I can’t qualify even so despite these circumstances because I’m not on disability. I was told if I wanted one of their meals I would have to get unto town where they have a improvised cafeteria set up at a meeting hall.

I was offered to see what it was all about to go out with one if the volunteer drivers on his route who would take me to that hall after he completed his deliveries. SO I did.

Half those people on that route were in far better financial circumstances than I ever given my age and abilities would hope to be. Their vehicles were no more than 5 years old. And most got to the door to accept the meal.

I offer no conclusion about this but to point out there is a need and a he;; of a lot of waste


25 posted on 03/16/2017 10:32:09 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: BackRoads775

Another example of dishonest reporting.

In the USA, Meals on Wheels are largely county-level local non-profits. It is not a government program so it shouldn’t receive federal funding. Technically, those MoW nonprofits that do get any type of federal grant, are not allowed to charge for the meals or serve meals to anyone younger than 60 (according to wiki) so there’s actually a disincentive.

After-school ‘educational programs’ were supposed to improve student scores, sociability and employability. They haven’t. Serving a snack may or may not have been part of the after-school program. Serving a snack didn’t improve student scores or health, either.

This is just the beginning of draining the swamp - by weeding out the failed or unnecessary or not-fed programs whose dollars go into an endless hole with no results. It’s like cleaning the attic. Hard work, a lot of memories, but worth it.


26 posted on 03/16/2017 10:52:35 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: PLMerite

They feed 2.4 million people every year using only 3% of the funds they raise?

Is this like Woodstock? Do they pass around a bowlful of granola?


27 posted on 03/16/2017 11:00:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: Yaelle

People in a coma can absentee vote for Democrats. Those babies won’t be able to vote for 18 years and when they grow up they are going to be p!ssed about the taxes they will have to pay to cover their share of the national debt spent by these and the politicians who came before them. MMM mmmm mmm.


28 posted on 03/16/2017 11:03:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: a fool in paradise

Pretty much.


29 posted on 03/16/2017 11:14:18 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: BackRoads775

My parents receive meal on wheels service for several years now. Which is big help because they are both barely able to care for themselves. I think it is a good organization that provides a valuable and needed service.

However, no private organization should receive federal money regardless the honorable mission. Cut it.....


30 posted on 03/16/2017 11:34:13 PM PDT by JParris
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To: The Cuban

Your attitude is why Democrats have controlled government for most of the past 80 years.


31 posted on 03/16/2017 11:58:14 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: BackRoads775

Meals on Wheels is not a federal program, it’s funded by state or local tax dollars and donations. The Federal Government gives a block grant to communities which some use part of to provide part of the funding for Meals on Wheels.

Anybody who wants an enlightening experience should attend their local Government’s CDBG hearing, or watch the archived footage of one. The hearings draw a sizable group of attendees, ranging from those who provide legitimate services to some who are outright scam artists. A significant group in the middle have nice sounding goals but customarily produce nothing of value to anyone but those who run them. They’re all lined up trying to get their snouts in the federal money trough. Frequently, cities aren’t too selective about who they give the money to because it’s not theirs.

In my community, re-purposing the money going to the scamsters would easily cover MOW. I doubt that we’re unique.


32 posted on 03/17/2017 12:47:57 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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To: Rusty0604

They have no program to discontinue MOW because they make no direct contribution to it. They give a lump of money to cities and some cities give some of it to MOW. They’re known as CDBG grants.

Their proposal is to stop handing out slush funds that they can’t supervise and, as he said, are frequently spent on programs that don’t produce any detectable results. MOW’s budget is generally less than 5 percent federal funds. It serves a purpose and is best funded closer to home.


33 posted on 03/17/2017 12:57:11 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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To: eyeamok

Only 3% of their budget comes from the feds


Wow! Only 3%—way it is being portrayed, I would have thought nearly all of budget comes from Fed...

(I don’t read WaPo-their paywall is too tedious to dismantle.)


34 posted on 03/17/2017 12:59:57 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: BackRoads775

The Bezos Post is getting creative again. He didn’t make any proposal regarding Meals on Wheels. He proposed cutting Community Block Development Grants. One reporter, probably reading from his DNC talking point card, brought up MOW.


35 posted on 03/17/2017 1:01:13 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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To: leaning conservative
You have just proven my point. Thank you.

Think about it and if you are still confused, ping me and I will be glad to discuss.

36 posted on 03/17/2017 1:14:10 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: BackRoads775

Considering the source, I would very much like to see the actual full statement, in context.

That said, the Federal Government does have the authority to spend money in this fashion - if they are, it is wrong.

It is not theirs to give.


37 posted on 03/17/2017 1:48:42 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: BackRoads775

Meals On Wheels and LIHEAP are two programs that actually work, and should be left alone.

There’s plenty of other pork that can be cut from other areas of the budget.

Such as John McCain’s salary....


38 posted on 03/17/2017 2:21:07 AM PDT by lbtbell
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To: House Atreides

Meals on wheels is a great program. But it should be done locally, as a charity if possible.

And certainly it gets results. Is it inefficient? Since it uses volunteers, I would imagine it is more efficient than most federal programs. But federal programs, pretty much by definition, are inefficient.


39 posted on 03/17/2017 2:26:11 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kipp

Actually, at $6 a day, delivered by volunteers, the program shouldn’t need federal funding at all.

I could see it set up to deliver meals from the local high school, for example, for significantly less than that.


40 posted on 03/17/2017 2:28:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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