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WEATHER SERVICE DECIDED LAST MINUTE NOT TO CUT SNOW FORECAST
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Posted on 03/14/2017 4:00:03 PM PDT by bryan999

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Before the first snow fell, U.S. meteorologists realized there was a good chance the late-winter storm wasn't going to produce giant snow totals in big Northeast cities as predicted.

But they didn't change their forecasts because they said they didn't want to confuse the public.

National Weather Service meteorologists in Boston, New York, Philadelphia and Washington held a conference call Monday afternoon about computer models that dramatically cut predicted snow amounts. They decided to keep the super snowy warnings.

"Out of extreme caution we decided to stick with higher amounts," Greg Carbin, chief of forecast operations at the Weather Prediction Center in suburban Maryland, told The Associated Press. "I actually think in the overall scheme that the actions (by states and cities) taken in advance of the event were exceptional."

On Monday, the weather service predicted 18 to 24 inches of snow in New York City. By late Tuesday afternoon, Central Park was covered with a little more than 7 inches of snow with rain and sleet still falling. Other areas, including upstate New York and Connecticut, received more than a foot and a half of snow. Swaths of Pennsylvania were walloped by 20 to 30 inches of snow

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To: Exit148

That would suggest that I had confidence in them in the first place. I didn’t. I worked outside for a lot of years and I long ago realzed they were batting about .500 on their best days. I listen to the forecast, and then look at the radar and then decide which is more convincing.

CC


21 posted on 03/14/2017 4:15:28 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Pravious

Absolutely right. And even for NYC the snow totals were not the whole story. In the city and the Island there was snow, sleet, freezing rain and 35 to 50 mph winds. And even with the significantly lower totals my local school district where my daughter works just decided on a two hour delay because the roads, even the main roads, are icing over as I write this. Maybe for Balt and DC USWS made a bad call but not fot NY, NJ, and Ct.


22 posted on 03/14/2017 4:18:39 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: dirtboy

Having watched weather closely for 66 years, I will give them a bit of a break on the snow. Snow and snow amounts are the most difficult of all weather events to predict.

Nonetheless, I think we are seeing a bit of how the “Deep State” works, even in the National Weather Service.


23 posted on 03/14/2017 4:19:05 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Wonder how much $$$$ was lost the past couple of days?

I dropped a quarter in the snow. I think I know where it is and I'll get it back when it thaws.

24 posted on 03/14/2017 4:20:12 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Paladin2

Snowflakes predict a half-hearted PC blizzard.


25 posted on 03/14/2017 4:20:37 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: bryan999
I'm convinced the weather people have a deal with the grocery stores. If not, they need a new agent.
#followthemoney
26 posted on 03/14/2017 4:22:30 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: oldplayer

They can’t predict what the weather is going to be tomorrow, but we have to fear climate change a hundred years from now?


27 posted on 03/14/2017 4:22:37 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: ronnie raygun
Now we have fake weather

You need to pay attention to hurricane season. NHC routinely reports wind speeds 20+ m.p.h. greater than actually measured wind speeds.

As an added bonus, try posting actually measured wind speeds on Free Republic. Weather alarmists will attack you.

28 posted on 03/14/2017 4:23:33 PM PDT by SSS Two
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To: ronnie raygun

I’m in the Poconos with 28 on ground now and 3-5 predicted for tonight and another 3-5 tomorrow.


29 posted on 03/14/2017 4:24:02 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: ronnie raygun
Not fake here in central NY:

"As of now, most areas have surpassed 20" with a few places exceeding 30". Most of this has fallen in less than 10 hours! That's an average rate of 2-3" per hour. The snowfall rates this afternoon are historic, with reports of 6-7" per hour. We even had reports of thundersnow in the Mohawk Valley."

And to continue: "As we go forward, the focus will shift to accumulating snow overnight and Wednesday. We think an additional 6-12" could fall between tonight and tomorrow on the back end."

30 posted on 03/14/2017 4:24:54 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: bryan999

Reminds me of March 14, 1968. Tulsa weather stations predicted a “Dry front” would pass through with no problems.

The problem was we got 14 inches of “dry front” blowing snow, drifts, intense cold. Shut down the Oklahoma-Arkansas area for several weeks.

No one had a 4-WD drive vehicle except the local banker.

Then there was Thanksgiving Day, 1976. Intense cold and wind along with snow.
January 1977. Another bad year for deep blowing snow, and pneumonia.
Now 4 inches of ice and 2 feet of snow in the last 10 years.
Did I mention snows as late as April and May?

Where is that glo-bull warming when you need it!


31 posted on 03/14/2017 4:25:51 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: bryan999

Then can’t even report the weather. Their egos will not permitt changes in the predictions. SAD.


32 posted on 03/14/2017 4:26:14 PM PDT by keving (We are the Government)
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To: bryan999

No, confusing people is saying 24” is coming and ending up with 4. The right thing to do is tell the truth so in the future people will take weather reports seriously.


33 posted on 03/14/2017 4:29:24 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (https://thepurginglutheran.wordpress.com)
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To: bryan999

Same forecasters that predicted a Clintonista win ?


34 posted on 03/14/2017 4:32:55 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: bryan999
Who can ya trust nowadays?! 😀
35 posted on 03/14/2017 4:35:52 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Happy days are here again, with Trump/Pence!)
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To: bryan999

Inconvenience 10 million people assholes


36 posted on 03/14/2017 4:36:29 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: bryan999
Before the first snow fell, U.S. meteorologists realized there was a good chance the late-winter storm wasn't going to produce giant snow totals in big Northeast cities as predicted.

But they didn't change their forecasts because they said they didn't want to confuse the public.


"Warning: accurate weather forecasts ahead, may cause confusion!"
37 posted on 03/14/2017 4:37:55 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: mass55th

yep I’m just east of Canandaigua. got back from work about 5:30 p.m., got my trusty Honda HS55 out and the wind kept blowing it back into my driveway.. .

hubs is working late on a construction job so no tell when he’ll be home. woodstove is going full blast


38 posted on 03/14/2017 4:39:17 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of CS paid is inversely proportionate to Mother's actual parenting of children she probably w)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Visited Canandaigua many times in years past. We had friends who lived on East Lake Road, and my mother was living in a senior citizen apartment building there prior to her passing in ‘95.


39 posted on 03/14/2017 4:42:20 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

the next county east of us (about 15 minutes away) has a travel ban (a real one) for tonight


40 posted on 03/14/2017 4:44:42 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of CS paid is inversely proportionate to Mother's actual parenting of children she probably w)
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