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DRUDGE: What is going on with National Weather Service? Lots of misses piling up.
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Posted on 03/14/2017 7:41:10 AM PDT by bryan999

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To: bryan999

This is what happens when your hiring goal is ‘diversity’ instead of ‘excellence’.


41 posted on 03/14/2017 8:11:35 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: finnsheep

The storm Tracks are going more west and north than forecast.


42 posted on 03/14/2017 8:12:03 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: W.

They, like baseball players, get paid lots of money and do what they’re paid to do, at best, about 30% of the time.


43 posted on 03/14/2017 8:12:05 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity
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To: Ezekiel

Yashua ben Joseph hit a home run, Yashua ben David is warming up. Matt. 24, the whole enchilada... ;)


44 posted on 03/14/2017 8:12:34 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: bryan999

Bernie Sanders issued the following statement earlier this morning: “This blizzard forecast is nothing more than a scheme by the Trump Administration designed to enrich the French Toast industry at the expense of working class Americans.”


45 posted on 03/14/2017 8:17:49 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: bryan999
We're in "Storm of the Century" territory going on right now here in Upstate NY.

But no one cares about us!! :)

46 posted on 03/14/2017 8:20:01 AM PDT by RubyR
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To: bryan999

Seems we’re going to get what they predicted in the Lehigh Valley area of Pennsylvania. Surprisingly.


47 posted on 03/14/2017 8:21:29 AM PDT by stevio (God,Guns,Guts.)
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To: bryan999

They have become Gorebull Warmers BSers instead of weather predictors.

Our local Fox station has cancelled its American based weather predictive system due to bs, and they have gone to an European group.

Many heavy duty construction outfits, large farmers and large vineyards have ditched the public services and pay big bucks for real weather predictions not Gorebull warming bs.

Some of the heavy duty construction companies got a wet heads up re February in California from their services. So, they postponed projects and suggested their people take vacations in February. Those projects will probably be started soon after next week’s wet spell passes through.


48 posted on 03/14/2017 8:21:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The Revolution is not over. It will not be over until Trump is Re-Elected again in 2020!!!)
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To: DBrow
They have to sell the concept that

YOU MUST BE IN GREAT FEAR.

49 posted on 03/14/2017 8:22:14 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: txrefugee

Speaking as someone who loves weather, you all should check out Ventusky.com and watch the wind patterns for several weeks. [Lots of other stuff to watch,too, as you click the left side list.] When we heard about the huge amount of snow I went to ventusky.com and checked out the low going up the eastern seaboard...very small and very slow, slow. Also checked out wind pattern for Stella...very slow. I thought the two might meet but like a lover’s glance, a slight involvement. The low down in Florida was not advancing at that time so I discounted it.

That is not to say doing all that creates an infallible personal weather report. Not at all. But it was more accurate than the NWS this time.


50 posted on 03/14/2017 8:24:03 AM PDT by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: txrefugee

The TV stations depend on NWS radar, radiosonde data, and other observations in order to develop their forecasts. The only thing they use that’s unique is their particular computer weather model.


51 posted on 03/14/2017 8:25:22 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: txrefugee

Many weather channels get their info from NWS. NWS is an agency that is close to worth the taxpayer $$$.


52 posted on 03/14/2017 8:26:07 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: RubyR
Remember, this is how many NYC residents see "upstate NY"...


53 posted on 03/14/2017 8:31:44 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: txrefugee

Well. at least in our area, the local TV forecasters and the NWS forecasts are rarely if ever all that much different. If there’s a big miss, they all pretty much miss. And the minor misses (say, predicted low for a given night) tend to be a wash. NWS misses by a couple degrees one night, the next, the TV forecast misses and NWS nails it. They are all looking at pretty much the same models...

At least our local NWS Office sometimes admits the severe misses. A couple months ago, one day the NWS “forecast discussion” began with “we could not have been more wrong...” But, even that seems depends on the author and how “visible” the miss is. (In that case, we had a nice, somewhat warm, partly cloudy day, instead of heavy, cold rain, forecast for most of the day. But one night when the low was missed by, IIRC, over 10 deg. F (on the warm side), that was never mentioned again by any source I know of... I was well aware of it, though, having covered a bunch of plants needlessly. In both cases, all the forecasts I saw were very close to equally inaccurate.)

I have noticed more such misses, recently.

Now, what the local TV stations DO have in some cases is much cooler “real time” monitoring of events like hail or tornados. In a recent storm, a station to our west was using a tool specifically designed to pick up a tornado’s “debris ball”. It missed the (long track) funnel being on the ground much of the time it WAS on the ground, but, when the storm hit a town, the “debris ball” then became very obvious.

OTOH, NWS offers much much more historical data and follow up info (like damage surveys and such) than do TV stations. It also provides much more detail on a “24/7” basis. Plus, if one’s access is the internet, NWS radar is not cluttered by ads and such, it comes up fast (at least for me) and sometimes is available when other parts of the web go down for us. (Something about the local sourcing, I guess, as sometimes when our web service goes down for the most part, the NWS radar pages are still available.) Then again, sometimes we get the “Radar not available” message on the NWS pages, when all else is working....

I’ve also noticed in severe weather situations that the Local TV weather team members will often say that they are monitoring or contacting or trying to contact NWS for more information. I suspect they (Local TV & Radio Weather People) would tell us that the NWS is an indispensable resource for them.


54 posted on 03/14/2017 8:33:08 AM PDT by Paul R.
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To: amorphous

This storm they even named Stella: “star”

(cf. Esther: “star”, also from hester, “hidden”)


55 posted on 03/14/2017 8:44:57 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: son of terrence

Yup. Snowstorms can be tricky! A couple days ago we were initially forecast for a couple inches (one outlier was 9”.) Then that got tapered down to almost nothing: 0.1” of snow (not equivalent in rainfall) was forecast around 2 a.m. Woke up @ 8 a.m. to a happy daughter; snowing hard w/ a little over an inch on the ground, with over 2” a few miles south of us. (1st real snow for us this winter.) No big deal for traffic, etc., in any case, but illustrative...

Several years back we were forecast for about 3-4” and got almost 10”. A few weeks later, an expected 7-8” produced no precip at all.


56 posted on 03/14/2017 8:45:52 AM PDT by Paul R.
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To: bryan999

The only way the weather forecasters know what the weather is like is when they look out the window. Me thinks they need a weather Rock!!!


57 posted on 03/14/2017 8:50:22 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: bryan999

We are taught to consider the computers as accurate and reliable - the future for our lives - don’t worry.

But I am worried when these computers make giant mistakes here and everywhere.


58 posted on 03/14/2017 8:52:42 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Listening to him now, on Mike Gallagher’s show. He’s a funny guy!


59 posted on 03/14/2017 8:54:11 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will bear these slings and arrows for you, the American people)o)
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To: EXCH54FE
they need a weather Rock

Yes, I am getting some steady snow.

60 posted on 03/14/2017 8:55:53 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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