Posted on 03/12/2017 7:02:21 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
SMOG in the LA Basin was pretty bad. Denver too. Local solutions were warranted. Best solution? Depopulate by limiting water stolen from outside the watershed.
Max, is that you?
Agreed. Crown Vics, Roadmasters, 90’s era Impalas/Caprices and similar are overdue for a return to the mass market, not just the domain of luxury cars.
Repealing CAFE means getting more car per dollar without some environmental activist saying one can’t.
LOL - I do see him as an inspiration of sorts.
Latinos, especially Mexicans, don’t give a crap about CA lib’s environmental gaia and pretty damn soon they will own CA at the ballot box.
“If kalifornia wants to impose a bazillion miles per gallon standard, and if car manufacturers are stupid enough to go along with them, I say go for it.”
That is exactly right! Let them do it. PLEASE let them do it. This is what state’s rights are all about. If they want to be stupid let them. And let them live with it. But don’t try to force it on the rest of us.
It probably increases the costs of all cars.
They put a lot of small independent truckers out of business too when they couldn’t afford to upgrade their trucks to CA standards. They wanted to ban or fine any out of state trucks traveling through too, I don’t know if they did.
Carbon Dioxide is NOT a pollutant otherwise there would be a carbon pollution tax on humans and everyone would have to wear the equivalent of catalytic converters around their necks.
The tremendous economic costs that CARB has inflicted on Californians and others has reached the point of diminishing returns plus. Whatever money they got out of it has been squandered on Jerry Brown’s wet dream, the coastal Silver Liner to nowhere, while tens of thousands of hard working farmers in the San Jaoquin Valley lost their jobs and livelihood.
The EPA should do a statewide study and see where the “pollution” hotspots are and then work to resolve them with the State. However since Obama’s EPA had targeted diesel engines for trains, planes, ships and trucks, for further emissions reductions even though they are doing a pretty good job with the technology they already have, it is going to be a hard fight.
I hope EPA Director Pruitt plays hardball with a 42 ounce bat. It is about time that somebody put the Marxists and lunatics of California politics back in the asylum.
Liberal wants to make their own gravy, so they can continue to ride on their gravy train.
“I hope the Trump administration drops CAFE standards.”
I totally agree. Let people decide what they want to buy.
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True, but needs clarification:
Air Resources Board of Calif. sets the terms for foreign as well as domestic automakers, for automobiles sold in the State of California.
Withe CAFE requirements relaxed to real world efficiency, certainly 49 states and most of the rest of the world will see significant reductions in price and expansions in choice of vehicles.
When ONE manufacturer says screw California, then it will happen.
Note that the Soviet State of California cannot prevent a vehicle licensed in any of the 49 states from being operated in California, and may not charge a fee to non commercial vehicles, they have little leverage anywhere, but to tax their own citizens to death, and to the ballot box.
That, among other reforms is what President Trump will motivate.
True, Max, it is a fertilizer, much like the fertilizer that comes from a DemoRat's mouth whenever they open it.
It does, I thought I had made that point.
Have you spoken with automakers? Do you believe them willing to bypass the California market?
Then I must have gotten your point. What do you suggest people in other states, the car manufacturers, or even the government can do to stop this? I’m a native Californian, have worked in close capacity to their government, and I know they think they rule. I’d say let the car companies charge CA the real cost for their vehicles, but would they do it? That would be risky for them.
That would be legal.
The manufacturers would have to do some accounting work, as CA and 49 state emissions systems are designed and built by the same engineers, engineering departments, and component manufacturers. IE; A CA system costs $XXX.xx and a 49 state system costs $YYY.yy.
A key is when Federal (and international) CAFE standards are adjusted to real world efficiently attainable specifications. Then you will have results: higher demand, and more competition for market share, resulting in more choice and lower prices. The California market will become less important, and eventually be ignored.
CA will become the dumping ground for overpriced used vehicles from the states purchasing the new models from both American and Foreign manufacturers. This fact will not be lost on most CA voters.
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