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New Film Suggests Link Between Vaccines and Autism
New American ^ | 3/9/2017 | Alex Newman

Posted on 03/12/2017 8:00:29 AM PDT by azkathy

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To: azkathy

“Less than 22 people died in the US from Diptheria, Tetanus and Pertussis combined over a 7 year time period.”

Because most were vaccinated.

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61 posted on 03/12/2017 10:36:51 AM PDT by Mears
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To: FXRP

Please pull your head out of the sand and read your last sentence and give what you said some serious thought.

SHEESH!!!


62 posted on 03/12/2017 10:37:12 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson was right.)
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To: azkathy

this was interesting , have you heard of this ?

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-08-the-amish-who-dont-get-vaccinated-rarely-get-autism-cancer-or-heart-disease-coincidence.html


63 posted on 03/12/2017 10:43:29 AM PDT by DvdMom
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To: azkathy

There is a middle ground available here, but few seem to want to locate it.

It’s quite likely that the autism epidemic is due in large part to medical advice in recent years to avoid direct sunshine, especially pregnant women, newborns, and young children. This advice has significantly increased the incidence of vitamin D3 deficiency in that population. For the skeptics, there are cases where autism symptoms obviously diminished when large doses of vitamin D3 were administered.

Low vitamin D3 stores would also explain why black children, particularly in northern climates, are more subject to autism (as the film indicated, and as the CDC covered up, apparently.) There are significantly higher rates of autism, for example, in Somali populations in the northern U.S. and Scandinavia. That is factual.

In my opinion, some people are genetically predisposed to contracting autism (that part is factual), and low vitamin D3 levels make it more likely that an insult (like a vaccine, for example) to the immune system will trigger the gene(s) that causes autism.

If that’s the case, and I believe it is, a rational approach would have vaccinations administered differently, or even not at all in some cases, to people found to be genetically predisposed to autism. Alternatively, we might find that ensuring sufficient vitamin D levels prior to vaccination is a sufficient measure.

But it makes little sense to ignore the issue altogether, and assume that everyone that differs with the government position on this is simply an ill-informed idiot, or worse.


64 posted on 03/12/2017 10:43:45 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: nanook

Um... Huh? Don’t you understand that when most of the kids are vaccinated, the disease can’t spread? Kids who aren’t vaccinated don’t get the diseases because others don’t have it to spread to them.

Now that unvaccinated illegals are entering the country willy-nilly, the infected will spread the disease to those who haven’t been vaccinated. It’s already happening.


65 posted on 03/12/2017 10:44:28 AM PDT by FXRP (Just me and the pygmy pony)
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To: DvdMom

Also interesting is that the Amish spend a significant portion of their childhood outdoors, without sunscreen in most cases, I suspect.

In other words, they get plenty of vitamin D3, a deficiency of which is associated with autism, cancer, and heart disease, and a lot of other common ailments.


66 posted on 03/12/2017 10:46:44 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: FXRP

Again I ask why are you afraid for your little Bobby. He has had his vaccine. I’m sorry but my coonass brain can’t comprehend your logic. I’m going back to eating my crawfish with my unvaccinated rugrats.


67 posted on 03/12/2017 10:50:49 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson was right.)
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To: nanook
Obviously there are still a lot of idiots on this site.

Maybe you should leave then.

why are you worried about your child getting sick from mine if the vaccine is so great?

Just because I have a fire extinguisher doesn't mean I'm going to let you set a fire in my kitchen.

68 posted on 03/12/2017 11:01:06 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Rennes Templar; All

Dated article but this covers all the crap the anti vaccinators are spewing.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11138145


69 posted on 03/12/2017 11:09:06 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: azkathy

I couldn’t agree with you more. Science improves through tech and scientific method. Vaccines have not. The current science of gene testing has opened wide and we have learned that not only his own genetic picture but which bacteria colonize a new baby’s gut (and body) determine how well THAT baby is prepared to handle the onslaught of vaccine ingredients and adjuvants. Some sustain permanent damage that so far cannot be seen as a clear cause and effect.

Think of Alzheimer’s, ALS, Parkinson’s. Many individuals with these neurological conditions had environmental causes for their diagnoses. Yet we don’t know quite what they were yet.

One day we will have a better idea. Until then, no one under the age of one should be injected with vaccines, period. Babies should be kept on breast milk and kept at home with a very few adult caregivers, which should protect most babies from diseases their first year. Every other smart animal has figured this out. Human, too, used to know this essential fact.

Before giving any young child a vaccination, weeks must be spent ensuring his gut biome has the best composition of bacteria possible. Probiotic foods and supplements must be given. This will minimize the harmful neurological sequelae.


70 posted on 03/12/2017 11:30:59 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: CodeToad

There is no debate with anti-science morons, they’ll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.


How foolish that is. Please see my previous post I just wrote.


71 posted on 03/12/2017 11:32:28 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: kara37

Most vaccines are not fully effective, and only last 5 years or so. Maybe 10. Varicella rarely lasts at all. It is almost useless. Thus, it is dangerous. Dumb people think their child was “immunized” against chicken pox. And they keep giving those boosters every few years. But at some point the kid becomes a 20-something and mama ain’t around. He is not going to keep up the vaccines. As a young adult chicken pox is no longer a harmless week of pox. It becomes deadly. Especially to an unborn baby, but even to the adult. Best to catch chicken pox as an elementary aged child. It’s no big deal, one rough week and done.


72 posted on 03/12/2017 11:36:51 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: azkathy

It’s one in 30 now. Every preschool class, just about, will have someone with obvious autism spectrum symptoms.


73 posted on 03/12/2017 11:38:52 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: azkathy

Can I pick up any iron lungs on eBay for a good price?

How about those big chunky metal leg braces? I hear they’re making a comeback. My son says they’ll probably be a really cool look in 10 years - kind of a cybernetic thing, I think.

I told my boys not to worry about whooping cough for their future kids. Builds character, makes ‘em tougher... or dead. And besides, if they croak they deserved it, the weaklings.

Maybe we can bring back that whole Spartan thing of throwing them off a cliff if they’re not healthy enough. Cheaper than even Robotussin! And no more Big Pharma, autism, or any of that messiness ever again.


74 posted on 03/12/2017 11:38:53 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Norseman

But it makes little sense to ignore the issue altogether, and assume that everyone that differs with the government position on this is simply an ill-informed idiot, or worse.


Yes, what is it with some FReepers, who don’t believe the enemedia on anything political, but suck it all in like mama milk on vaccines? How does that kind of brain compartmentalizing even WORK?


75 posted on 03/12/2017 11:41:59 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Poison Pill

We shield vaccine makers from liability because their products are dangerous and wildly profitable.


76 posted on 03/12/2017 11:44:40 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: angryoldfatman

You don’t understand the science of polio. It was caused by an enterovirus. There are millions of different ones. They come and go through the human population. Even back in polio’s day, most people who caught the enterovirus in question had a mild stomach flu type illness. They may even not have known they were sick. A rare few very unlucky patients received the worst sequela of AFM (acute flaccid myelitis, an attack on the nervous system, spinal cord, resulting in paralysis). These enteroviruses sometimes STILL have this horrible outcome. Google acute flaccid myelitis.

What we need, since we won’t be ridding the world of enteroviruses, is now to learn why THIS child was paralyzed while these 20,000 were not. Perhaps the one child lacked something, Vitamin D, perhaps? Many babies and children are deficient. Or something else, a genetic predisposition that might be changed by diet or environment? There is so much to learn.


77 posted on 03/12/2017 11:52:53 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: freedomfiter2
their products are dangerous

You live in a world without polio and small pox

and wildly profitable.

Merck, the largest maker of vaccines, has a net profit margin that is about 1% higher than the entire S&P 500.

78 posted on 03/12/2017 12:10:29 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Yaelle

So you’re telling me you don’t know of any good deals on iron lungs? How about Craig’s List?


79 posted on 03/12/2017 12:33:05 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Nifster

“Correlation is not causation. Emotionality does not trump science”

Is this the same science that thought it was safe to give pregnant woman thalidomide causing many of them to bring into the world babies minus their arms and legs.Also the science that thought it was ok to expose people to radioactivity when the needed to have their shoes fitted properly.

These are all the things that science approved of and we’re not even getting to the Liberal approval of Global Warming.

So who the hell was being emotional?I Just stated what I experienced in My Life.

You should be thankful that You haven’t experienced the same thing.


80 posted on 03/12/2017 12:38:17 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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