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Why Does The GOP Want To Push Its Own Version of Obamacare?
Townhall.com ^ | March 10, 2017 | John Hawkins

Posted on 03/11/2017 7:13:12 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: SubMareener

First off: there is the extremely lawful option of not spending money if none is appropriated for a given purpose.

Obama’s lawlessness, among many really, was that he spent money not appropriated.

It is not a delegated power of the federal to provide healthcare for the general population.

So, yes.

People’s circumstances, no matter how dire, are not amendments to the Constitution nor delegations of power for the federal to meet their needs.

No delegated power = no right to even speak to the issue in Rule or Regulation, never mind taxation or appropriations.


61 posted on 03/11/2017 8:47:40 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Kaslin

Ryan is a true-blue GOP elite and RINO.

I can’t say what his beliefs actually are, but he will support the uniparty and its values above all.


62 posted on 03/11/2017 8:49:01 AM PST by PGR88 (The)
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To: 9YearLurker

So let us just Obamacare as it is, since they say we can’t get the votes. And then everyone’s healthcare cost will go up and the blame will still go to the Dems who won’t vote to completely repeal it. Meanwhile, entrepreneurs will get working to have their free market solutions lined up.

Then once it is repealed, we let market forces do its thing. Hospitals have printed menus to be more competitive. People purchase just what they need. And it is understood, healthcare does not come from the government, but from individuals and their families, or if they so chose, from a pool of their choice.


63 posted on 03/11/2017 8:50:08 AM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Kaslin

Because the Grand Old Party is the same as the Dems: interested in controlling other people. Or compromised for money or kinky sex.

Rand Paul gets it. He must remember that old piece of animal skin he swore an oath to defend.


64 posted on 03/11/2017 8:52:17 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Kaslin

They’re luciferians just like their supposed opponents.


65 posted on 03/11/2017 8:52:33 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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To: ironman

Can you cite the delegated power given the federal to levy a tax on not obeying a Rule or Regulation?

To be more specific: how is that not properly called a “fine”, for which due process is to be had?


66 posted on 03/11/2017 8:56:48 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Sheapdog

I haven’t heard anyone explain why it would be impossible to revert back to basically right before Obamacare and start from there.


I am very ignorant on congressional procedure. But so far, all I can glean is that it’s all about votes and procedure.

Do you remember once upon a time we used to wonder what if, during his presidency, there is proof Obama was never eligible? Would all of his laws etc become invalid? Well? How would that have ever happened, if they can’t even overturn Obamacare from the voters who obviously want it gone? Would they have been, like now, all stepping on their weenies, and just say, ohhhhh, it’s all tooooo entrenched, weeee caaaaaaan’t?


67 posted on 03/11/2017 9:00:53 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Kaslin

The simple reason is that they realize that their governing base includes a lot of people who depend on it... Particularly in a handful of states.


68 posted on 03/11/2017 9:15:47 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: PK1991

“I do not understand Trump’s support for this bill.”

That’s exactly why I asked, because I’ve received two emails in two days from the “White House” expressing his support of Ryan’s bill. Ryan proved himself untrustworthy long ago.
We should go back to pre-”Obamascare.”

Still baffled.


69 posted on 03/11/2017 9:55:01 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Yogafist
I think the answer is easy. The heads of the insurance companies showed them how much they are willing to invest in reelecting Republicans, so answering to the people who voted for them takes a back seat.

Yup. K Street lobbyists have their fingerprints all over this monstrosity.


70 posted on 03/11/2017 10:01:48 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

BINGO


71 posted on 03/11/2017 11:00:16 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: momincombatboots

Do you seriously think that Trump has 51 votes for repeal? Are you insane or maybe you just can’t count?

McCain, Linda. So much for repeal.


72 posted on 03/11/2017 11:02:08 AM PST by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Rurudyne

“like Mr Halfways, in the Pilgrim’s Regress”

Nice analogy. Forgot about that one. Good story by C.S. Lewis for those who aren’t familiar.


73 posted on 03/11/2017 12:07:37 PM PST by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: Kaslin

Democrats are leftists

Republicans are liberals

Then there’s us


74 posted on 03/11/2017 1:08:10 PM PST by wardaddy (this is war....)
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To: Kaslin

Because they’re statists too, and they really do believe that we “have nowhere to go.”


75 posted on 03/11/2017 3:08:27 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kaslin

This pile of garbage is going to have trouble getting passed.


76 posted on 03/11/2017 3:09:06 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kaslin

Let it implode and the legacy of Barack Obama.
GET GOVERNMENT OUT of healthcare. You want something to cost more, subsidise it.


77 posted on 03/11/2017 5:28:48 PM PST by cp124 (America Survives)
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To: Luircin

They have the votes, it already happened, several times in the house.. So maybe I can’t count and you can’t remember what has already happened. But thanks for being such a respectful sweetie..wink.
Every tax and subsidy could be repealed today. Some of the regs not so much. They are simply delaying it and doing nothing, because they value reelection over the principles they ran on.


78 posted on 03/13/2017 8:15:53 AM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: momincombatboots
No, we don't​ have the votes. Because they knew that repeal bills would go nowhere. Now that we have a prez who won't veto, they won't dare offer a repeal. Because they want to keep Obamacare. You don't seem to understand the level of lying weasel we have in Congress right now.
79 posted on 03/13/2017 10:47:50 AM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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