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Child porn case dropped to prevent FBI disclosure
BBC ^ | 3/6/2017 | Staff

Posted on 03/06/2017 2:00:33 PM PST by Titus-Maximus

US prosecutors have dropped a case against a man accused of using a child porn site because the government refused to divulge how it revealed his identity.

The Playpen site was located on the Tor network which is used to anonymise web-browsing activity. The FBI found a way around this to reveal the users' real IP addresses and led to 200 prosecutions. But it refused to reveal to the court how it managed the feat.

The site was located on the Tor network which many people use to browse the web anonymously. It conceals their location and identity by routing their connections through a chain of different computers and encrypting data in the process.

To get round this the FBI used what it called "network investigative techniques" and revealed people's identities.

But it refused a request for information on its technological investigation techniques. Federal prosecutor Annette Hayes wrote in a court filing on Friday that "because the government remains unwilling to disclose certain discovery related to the FBI's deployment of a 'network investigative technique'" it was "deprived of the evidence needed to establish defendant Jay Michaud's guilt beyond reasonable doubt".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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To: Titus-Maximus

They do not want to disclose the means they used to spy on him, I bet.


21 posted on 03/06/2017 3:00:08 PM PST by madison10 (Bless you, Mr. DJ Trump.)
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To: Titus-Maximus
I don't mean to hijack thread, but, based on what the FBI says it has going here, which they don't want to give up...

It would seem to me that the FBI should have been able to determine as an absolute fact whether Russia meddled in the election and the DNC leaks and wikileaks leaks or not.

They couldn't.

The unclassified DNI report of 12/29/2016 (which includes the FBI) gives a "high confidence" that it was the Russians.

""High Confidence" generally indicates that judgments are are based on high-quality information from multiple sources. High confidence in a judgment does not imply that the assessment is a fact or a certainty; such judgments might be wrong.

Then, the Feds release this (which is supposedly how it was done):

How Russians Hacked

Yet the Feds are "confident".

"The use of common practices and methodologies is part of why the government is confident that both APT28 and APT29 are associated with RIS."

Still, no absolute fact it was the Russians.

And now we find out the FBI has tech tricks that can uncover & track anonymous surfing, yet still couldn't absolutely pin it on the Russians ?
22 posted on 03/06/2017 3:13:26 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Titus-Maximus
FWIW:


23 posted on 03/06/2017 3:16:23 PM PST by wtd
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To: bigbob

TOR was a DARPA project from the get go. They pushed it for “public” consumption to build enough traffic to hide agents’ communications.


24 posted on 03/06/2017 3:25:50 PM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Even if they choose not to prosecute, someone can anonymously leak the details about the perv for all to see. That’s about 90% of what the NYT does these days, so it’s got to be protected under the 1st Amendment, right?


25 posted on 03/06/2017 3:26:45 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: bigbob

Apparently, the methodology was to download a Windows exploit that sent the MAC address of the user’s NIC and Windows hostname to an SAIC server in Reston VA.

See here: https://hacked.com/child-porn-bust-fbi-may-used-malware-innocent-users/

and here: https://www.wired.com/2013/08/freedom-hosting/


26 posted on 03/06/2017 6:50:22 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Titus-Maximus
Are they protecting someone?

They have broken TOR and don't want others to know how they did it - worth more to them than letting a few kiddie porn sickos off the hook.

The good thing is that the case was thrown out (even though the perp needs to be put away)- if they can't prove their data is valid, they shouldn't be able to use it - it becomes hearsay....

27 posted on 03/07/2017 3:31:14 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: stylin19a

Interesting.


28 posted on 03/07/2017 8:12:18 AM PST by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: stylin19a

Interesting.


29 posted on 03/07/2017 8:12:24 AM PST by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: Titus-Maximus

No, they are protecting how they were able to defeat an anonymizing network designed to conceal a user’s source IP. Criminal networks rely on TOR to conceal their traffic and if the FBI has figured out a way to skirt around it, it only makes sense that they would not want to disclose how they did it.

That is more valuable to them than proceeding with the case.


30 posted on 03/07/2017 8:16:41 AM PST by bar sin·is·ter
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To: trebb

This is a bit of conundrum for the FBI, if they aren’t willing to reveal how they have compromised TOR to charge criminals, then how do they propose bringing them to trial?

It’s almost self defeating.


31 posted on 03/07/2017 8:19:33 AM PST by bar sin·is·ter
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To: bar sin·is·ter
This is a bit of conundrum for the FBI, if they aren’t willing to reveal how they have compromised TOR to charge criminals, then how do they propose bringing them to trial?

Exactly - they want to be able to bring charges w/o any proof that their info is reliable. Reminds me of the Dems - "It's not the provable facts, it's the seriousness of the charges"...

32 posted on 03/07/2017 12:21:55 PM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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