Posted on 02/26/2017 5:05:15 AM PST by Helicondelta
You were heading right where I was going.. as a means of “incentivizing” these lying, gutless bastards, pass legislation that removes their exemption from O-holecare and watch how quickly they spring into action to replace this pile of crap.
“.......He’s got to get on board with Donald Trump because Donald Trump’s........”.....
Because Donald Trump is THE POTUS, who has the power to veto anything Ryan puts before him for approval. Yes, Ryan is that stupid.
RomneyCARE-EXEMPT Ryan is
STILL running with Romney and Soros, and plans
to continue making Pres. Trump look bad (SSDD).
Ryan is a snake!!!
Ryan is using the occasion of Trump’s election to try to pass his own BS plan and calling it the Trump plan to eliminate Obamacare. In fact, it’s nothing like Trump’s ideas.
First off, the GOP needs to break up Obamacare and repeal the individual pieces of it; or keep them, if that is what they want.
The keeping of young people on until age 26 should be voted on, and if passed, with a sunset date.
I listened to nearly every Trump rally and at no time do I remember him saying to eliminate the Medicaid expansion. Not once. There is no sense in exciting all the lunatics by tackling that now. It should be left alone and tackled in his 2nd term. There are too many GOP govs that went along with it. It can be reformed like Healthy Indiana was, or slowly starve the federal commitment to it until it becomes the problem of individual statehouses.
The reason the preexisting part of Obamacare is so expensive is because, evidently, is only is spread out over Obamacare policies. Dr. Betsy explains this well and how to solve it:
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/309081-the-pre-existing-conditions-myth
What about the exchanges? The exchanges SHOULD BE the existing cafeteria plans that federal employees get. Employers should be allowed to purchase from these plans, as well. Every state has many plans that cover the federal employees that work in that state. Already set up with participating providers and all the rest. Before you flip out over how expensive this is going to be, please look at this chart. AND SAVE IT. It was a pain in the ass to find, and the only one I saw that gave the total premium, gov’t (employer) contribution, and the employee contribution. These sound a lot less expensive than many of the Obamacare premiums I am hearing about.
https://www.opm.gov/healthcare-insurance/healthcare/plan-information/premiums/
You will be able to look up your own state’s plans via that link, so hang on to it.
Nothing will be better than having Trump get up and state that all Americans will now have access to the same health care plans that Congress and federal employees have.
(and it’s the only thing that will save us from some future Bernie-care)
Finally, Denninger over at market-ticker.org has been pounding the pans for years over the fact that the medical industry has been operating outside federal law for YEARS regarding pricing conspiracies. Nothing has ever been done about it. But it is against the law right now. Once he gets his people together, it will be worth Sessions time to look into it, since transparent pricing results in a 75-80% reduction in real costs. This is because the gov’t is the “free-rider” not the individual patient. The gov’t negotiates below market rates for services, so the correct cost (plus enough to cover the gov’t underpayment) is shifted to private insurance companies, causing the rates to skyrocket. There are more reasons, including pure greed and collusion, but you get the picture. If Sessions decided to enforce this law, the fur might fly for a while, but things would be settled for the good, soon enough.
I thought Pauly RINO should have been Cantorized in the primary, but his constituents like being screwed by their Congressman.
It’s not that they are lazy, they have a different agenda.
Many of them are Democrats in R jerseys who do not want Obamacare repealed.
BETSY WAS AGAINST OBAMACARE FROM THE START. SHE CARRIED THE LAW WITH HER EVERYWHERE, TABBED AND HIGHLITED SHE KNOWS IT CHAPTER AND VERSE. BETSY HAS BEEN RIGHT ABOUT IT WAS GOING TO FAIL.
BETSY KNOWS HOW TO FIX IT, SHE IS ONE OF THE MOST EXPERT PEOPLE ON HEALTHCARE. BETSY SHOULD BE THE OBAMACARE REPLACEMENT CZAR.
ON RYAN, HE IS STILL ROMNEY’S BOY. I NEVER LIKED HIM, I DON’T THINK HE KNOWS BUDGETS, THERE IS NO PROOF HE CAN BALANCE ONE.
I DON’T TRUST RYANO. BONER SAID THEY ARE SCARED TO REPEAL OBAMACARE, HE IS RIGHT, SO WE HAVE TO KEEP CALLING THESE SENATORS TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW DO IT OR ELSE YOUR FIRED.
President Trump’s going to give him a chance before he goes on the attack for the Repub Congress-critters who try to stay wishy-washy....if they don’t produce, you can bet he will take off the gloves for the “all-mouth-no-action representatives” ... again.
You’re one smart guy (or gal) for a bonehead. ;-)
Then all conservatives should bug the heck out of their reps and senators proposing this plan. Tell them to repeal Obamacare now, or face a primary challenger and a voter rebellion.
Politicians secretly love being in the minority so they can pretend to be opposing the other party and using scare tactics for fundraising. Time to tell the Republicans to actually accomplish something, and by that, we don’t mean appearing at photo ops with community groups.
Ryan should be replaced, period.
Thanks it’s very obvious by their actions and who there friends are, and yes I’m a man no gender confusion on that score LOL!
You're among friends here, you don't have to holler.
The Republican Party has accepted the false premise that Obamacare needs to be replaced.
It doesn't. This is a scare tactic by the Left at getting the Republicans to create a plan similar to Obamacare, so the Dems and media can blame them when that too fails.
The best option right now is to repeal Obamacare completely. Don't worry about the pre-existing coverages, the people who have Obamacare now, etc.
Very true!!
Ryan should have never been elected Speaker!!!What a huge mistake by the rank and file Repubs. It was MISTAKE #1!!!
(2) There are two threats to House passage. One will be if it becomes clear that the Senate will never muster the votes, and the House Republicans will split between those who want to plant the flag vs. those who want to hide in the weeds. The hide in the weeds guys will join in repeal if they think we can win, but some of them from marginal districts may not want to cast a damaging vote in a lost cause.
The second, and much greater, threat to House passage is if the holier-than-thou folks get on their high horse and turn passage into a ritual purity test. I'm concerned that a substantial faction will prefer to lose noisily on a 100 percent bill rather than compromise, and get 85 percent of the loaf.
(3) Last but not least, there are still too many people jabbering as if Obamacare had not changed the facts on the ground. I regret as much as anyone that Obamacare was passed. But that's water over the dam. It is a reality. Some tens of millions of people now get their health care through Obamacare, and everyone's insurance policies have been rewritten in accordance with the mandates and hidden cross subsidies. The status quo ante is gone. Humpty Dumpty can't simply be put back into place.
Repealing Obamacare is the easy part. Coming up with a constructive replacement is the hard part. It's possible, and I know what I'd like to see done, but not everyone is ready to buy into the repeal of guaranteed issue, the repeal of community rating, and the elimination of third party payment and a comprehensive shift to individually owned plans. This is our chance, not just to repeal Obamacare, but to do fundamental health care reform right. There is, again, far too much posturing from people who think repeal is the only thing we need to do.
Do you want Paul Ryan to compromise with Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, etc. now, or wait until after the House passes its bill?
P.S. If anyone knows how Mitch McConnell can ensure that he has 60 votes for repeal and replace -- or even 51 if we move through reconciliation -- speak up now. I'm sure McConnell is spending most of his time trying to figure that out right now. He has 52 votes if all the Republicans hang together. Purging a half a dozen RINOs may be emotionally gratifying, but it doesn't move us towards 60. Personally, I'd rather see Obamacare repealed than indulge in ritual purity exercises.
Paul Ryan IS doing his job.
And that’s the problem.
Paul Ryan IS doing his job.
And that’s the problem.
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