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To: wintertime

Schools, education are not welfare. Education of immigrants is a legit topic to debate. But it is separate from welfare.

Welfare is TANF, EBT,SNAP, WIC, Medicaid, Kidcare, Section 8, etc.

No non-citizen should come here or be here to apply for or collect welfare. This includes legals, illegals, refugees and special categories. Non-citizens are not covered by the 14th Amendment and have no equal protection of privileges and emoulments.

Naturalized citizens (who are covered by the 14th) should not be allowed to apply for or collect welfare. That would have to be a term of their contract that is part of the naturalization process.

We should not create a new dependent class.

Anchor babies are a totally different topic that could be debated, but is separate from non-citizens as anchor babies are covered by the 14th Amendment.


9 posted on 02/25/2017 5:39:47 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob
Who will pay the $20,000/per year/ per child to school the immigrant child? Someone will and it is likely NOT the immigrant parents.

And....When that legal immigrant mom has a baby or ( worse) a premature baby who gets to pay for that? Who will deny medical treatment to an infant? Someone is going to pay for that and it is likely NOT the immigrant parents.

And....Remember. Government schooling is an entitlement. Some call it welfare. I am among those who call it middle class welfare.

14 posted on 02/25/2017 7:02:34 AM PST by wintertime (tStop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: spintreebob
No non-citizen should come here or be here to apply for or collect welfare.

But they are big league. Immigrants, legal and illegal, use the welfare system to a much greater degree than the native born. We are importing poverty.

...as anchor babies are covered by the 14th Amendment.

An interpretation that needs to be challenged in the courts and Congress. Trump could start the ball rolling by declaring that the children of illegal aliens are no longer considered to be American citizens. The issue will then be run the courts. If that fails, then a constitutional amendment would be necessary. There are only 33 countries in the world that have birthright citizenship, and most of them are in the "New World." The only developed countries that have it are Canada and the US. It doesn't exist in Europe or Japan.

16 posted on 02/25/2017 7:16:18 AM PST by kabar
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