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Repair work on Lake Oroville spillways begins
KCRA Sacramento ^ | February 13th, 2017 | KCRA Staff

Posted on 02/13/2017 7:18:20 PM PST by Mariner

OROVILLE, Calif. (KCRA) —

Crews are beginning to make repairs to the spillways at Lake Oroville, the California Department of Water Resources said.

“Efforts are underway to make repairs to both the primary and auxiliary spillways at Lake Oroville,” officials tweeted.

Military-grade helicopters are picking up 1-ton containers of rocks from a parking lot near Lake Oroville, flying them to the erosion scar at the emergency spillway and dropping the containers into the hole.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; dam; lakeoroville; nationalguard; oroville; orovilledam; repair; spillway; spillways
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To: Cobra64

Wouldn’t filling the hole with large, heavy boulders just provide more ammunition that will be sent downhill when the thing comes apart?


101 posted on 02/14/2017 7:11:20 AM PST by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: Sequoyah101
If they were to spread the water and get the velocity low enough across the toe of the emergency spillway it looks like an application for an Fabriform blanket with accelerated grout then some rock. This looks more like a political posturing than engineering. If I were an engineer on this project I’d resign. Better to shovel crap with a spoon than to be humiliated and associated with this kind of kabuki theatre...

The 'oh so vile ones' in the MSM are impressed with large noisy helicopters... "If it bleeds it leads..."

102 posted on 02/14/2017 7:28:27 AM PST by GOPJ (Democrats appoint activist 'judges' to legislate from the bench. WE NEED TO DO THE SAME.)
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To: 444Flyer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_59GVQXdKQ


103 posted on 02/14/2017 7:35:09 AM PST by GOPJ (Democrats appoint activist 'judges' to legislate from the bench. WE NEED TO DO THE SAME.)
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To: Mariner

“Additionally, the report states that although the employees were instructed to open the valves at a 100 percent water flow rate of 5,400 cubic feet per second, river valves have “historically failed when operated at 100 percent” and “employees expressed safety concerns with operation of the river valves to 100 percent.””

From 2009 incident. Hope the river valves hold up...http://www.chicoer.com/article/zz/20100223/NEWS/100227917


104 posted on 02/14/2017 7:39:26 AM PST by polymuser
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To: Mariner

That emergency spillway/weir erosion, combined with the water flowing backwards (from the ground into spillway) through the vents on the sides of the main spillway’s sluice, means there’s serious water in that soil. And, what’s happening right now above and below the main spillway sluice’s failure edge?


105 posted on 02/14/2017 7:55:07 AM PST by polymuser
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To: Dustoff45

But but but, they’re using “military grade” helicopters!

Since that phrasing was used, I’m sure everything will be Alright.


106 posted on 02/14/2017 8:09:13 AM PST by T-Bone Texan (:^¤)
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To: T-Bone Texan

A while back I read Paul Johnson’s “The Johnstown Flood,” which describes the 1889 flood caused by the failure of an earthen dam after many days of heavy rain. Like the Oroville Dam, it had shown signs of erosion and cracks for several months, but the engineer who urged that it be repaired was ignored. The water roared down a narrow gorge for 15 miles and and wiped out several towns along the way. It reached Johnstown in the late afternoon, and people who saw it coming said they couldn’t see any water. All they could see was a 23’-high rolling wall of trees, railroad cars, buildings, dead animals, and other debris. I’ll never forget that description.


107 posted on 02/14/2017 9:50:20 AM PST by American Quilter (Let's see those vetting processes, and the proposed tax cuts, and the wall plans!)
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To: American Quilter; All

Up to eight inches of rain between now and Monday for the mountains around Oroville.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-live-updates-oroville-dam-more-rain-in-forecast-as-workers-1487004027-htmlstory.html


108 posted on 02/14/2017 10:10:15 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: Mariner

Drop the illegals in there, that’ll plug it up fast

And save $$$ overall in the process


109 posted on 02/14/2017 10:14:23 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT Mexico NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: GOPJ

Wow. The water is always The Boss.

In the experimental dam fail video I posted, one of the engineers can be heard saying, “Something different happens every time...the previous dam failed on this side of it.” When you take that into consideration, the unpredictability factor is most frightening.


110 posted on 02/14/2017 11:06:25 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: American Quilter

What must be remembered about the terrible situation of the Johnstown flood compared to the Oroville Dam is that the Oroville Dam is literally an order of magnitude (10x) larger than the South Fork dam above Johnstown.


111 posted on 02/14/2017 11:33:30 AM PST by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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To: maggief; Grampa Dave; All

Possible concern: Large Bubbles in water in front of Emergency Spillway - may indicate water flowing under/through the Emergency Spillway.

Sorry for any large image inconvenience. However these rising air bubbles are huge. I’ve circled the large bubbles breaking the surface in the image. These significant bubbles may indicate water is flowing under/through the Emergency spillway foundation. See the youtube at the 40 second mark as the helicopter camera/pilot zoomed in on these. It caught their eye for them to zoom in on it.

i.imgur.com/XtuQiPM.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqEU2X6yBPk&feature=youtu.be
Fox10 Oroville dame update Feb 13, 2017


112 posted on 02/14/2017 12:06:15 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and expertise.

That station seems to be doing a better job than our N. Cali stations are.


113 posted on 02/14/2017 12:11:54 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Concerned trolls/NeverTrumpsters, don't know to celebrate winning as they buy into fake news!!!!)
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To: EarthResearcher333; maggief; Grampa Dave
Here is the image of the huge bubbles (two bubbling locations - circled)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqEU2X6yBPk&feature=youtu.be Fox10 OROVILLE DAM UPDATE Feb 13, 2017

114 posted on 02/14/2017 12:15:58 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333; Grampa Dave; maggief; All
Emergency Repair work: New photo from 8:15am this morning 2/14/2017. Activity: Rock trucks continually dumping material into erosion crevasses. Dozer pushing & leveling large rock. Concrete pumper on site and moving the boom arm to where the grader is working. Continual stream of non-stop large semi trucks bringing rock via the Dam access road. This location of the dozer & the large rock pile aligns at/near the water bubbling on the other side. Not sure if this is a concern area of a potential seep or leak through.



115 posted on 02/14/2017 2:11:50 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333; Grampa Dave; maggief; All
typo in link - here is the image:



116 posted on 02/14/2017 2:14:04 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: ColdOne; Abathar; KC Burke; ifinnegan; Cobra64; All

Why hasn’t [Dem gov.] fixed the dam? Brown has been in office since 2011. Republican Schwartzenagger was in from late 2003 to late 2011. According to the article below, the issue of earth and rock fill rather than a concrete cover for the emergency spillway was raised in Oct. 2005 by those pesky environmentalists Sierra Club and others. They went to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission with the issue who then went back to the state Department of Water Resources who conferred with the local water agencies who said they were unnecessary (since they would be the ones paying most of the bill). So the buck was passed in 2005, by those who will now probably have to pay much bigger bills unless the Trump government decides to help out, which may not be likely.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/12/oroville-dam-feds-and-state-officials-ignored-warnings-12-years-ago/


117 posted on 02/14/2017 2:24:33 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: American Quilter; All

I read the book several decades ago, but if I remember correctly, the glitterati who owned shore front real estate were very much against the idea of drawing down the water level for safety because it would have made for an ugly shore line.


118 posted on 02/14/2017 2:30:28 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: EarthResearcher333; Grampa Dave; maggief; All

Per LA times:
— The FAA has issued a temporary ban on flights around the Oroville Dam. Stated reason: to allow emergency aircraft to operate safely.

This ban goes to May 17. Yet today there is no helicopters operating.
The ban includes drones.

I understand a flight safety concern, but this cuts off a valuable source of news video images. If it weren’t for the Fox 10 copter video the “bubbles” in the water near the emergency spillway would not have been captured (& be public).

I guess we’ll have to “trust” our government to keep us accurately appraised..


119 posted on 02/14/2017 2:38:55 PM PST by EarthResearcher333
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To: waus
I didn’t realize the town was that close to the dam.

Talk about poor planning. Maybe if it was up on one of the river banks.

120 posted on 02/14/2017 2:52:54 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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