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Oroville Dam Spillway Emergency: Number of People Ordered to Evacuate Rises to Nearly 200,000 (CA)
weather.com ^ | Feb. 12, 2017 | AP

Posted on 02/13/2017 5:52:03 AM PST by bgill

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To: bgill

A large number of people thought the reservoirs would never be full again. They thought the world was in a permanent drought. Even the “reputable” scientists were predicting the drought would be worse by now. This article from June captures a small slice of the sentiment. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/water-718356-california-drought.html


21 posted on 02/13/2017 6:37:19 AM PST by Shanty Shaker
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To: bgill

It’s par for CaliPornia.

When I lived out there it was the first time in my life I had ever seen forested land without well maintained fire breaks. The state has been run incompetently for many many decades.


22 posted on 02/13/2017 6:48:22 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: bgill

But the billions and billions that’ll poured into this north-south bullet train to nowhere in which nobody will ride is more important.

I cannot wait to retire and get the hell out of this state. Can’t come soon enough.


23 posted on 02/13/2017 6:50:23 AM PST by Kevin in California
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To: bgill

When this crisis began it was amazing how little interest in it was shown by the national media.

It seems that if it doesn’t involve the struggle for control over the power of the federal government or their waging of the culture war, the national media is not much interested.


24 posted on 02/13/2017 6:51:11 AM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: Awgie

“WC deployed all resources to NE to make snowballs. “

Yeah,snow in FEBRUARY-—what a shocker./s

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25 posted on 02/13/2017 6:51:36 AM PST by Mears
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To: bgill

IS this Fake News or real?? Moonbeam and his minions have been telling us for YEARS that it is not cyclical and that PERMANENT DROUGHT and DRY CALIFORNIA is a result of runaway Global Warming, so this must be FAKE NEWS right??

ps, prayers for those downstream


26 posted on 02/13/2017 6:53:33 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: WildHighlander57

https://youtu.be/5iAHBOHGk8E

Chp chopper view; go to 0:15 to see water pouring over the dirt that is to the —left— of the weir...


27 posted on 02/13/2017 6:58:00 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: bgill

It’s a kayak!


28 posted on 02/13/2017 7:10:36 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (FU Shmuckie Shoomer (Rat-NY) and Prick Durbin(Rat-IL))
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To: Awgie

The Weather Channel doesn’t recognize weather west of New York, unless it advances it’s theory of “climate change”. Every day, last week, they were concerned with coastal erosion (and I thought Obama had stopped the water’s rise) as if it never occurred in history.


29 posted on 02/13/2017 7:14:45 AM PST by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: wbarmy

The Hoover Dam blocks the Colorado River, that drainage basin draws its water from Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Wyoming and a tiny corner of Mexico. If the map at the link below is correct, little to none of its water comes from California.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River


30 posted on 02/13/2017 7:17:18 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: bgill
I don't know the ins and outs of the Dam but they should start looking at new designs....with more spillways and maybe even canals/reservoirs. I think they're just stuck on stupid.

50 years ago, when I was young, I made a canal system for my garden.....nutsie but very cool.

31 posted on 02/13/2017 7:23:13 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: bgill
"Noooo prob-o-lema..."

Meanwhile, let's all just take a cruise on the Titanic...

32 posted on 02/13/2017 7:41:08 AM PST by TXnMA ( A day without learning something, plus praying for someone who never knows of it -- is wasted.)
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

True, but that water goes to California, and the taps have been turned way down as of lately.

If that area does not get water, then neither does Southern California, which is where the drought has been hitting hardest.

And there are no real mechanisms to get the water from Northern CA to Southern CA.


33 posted on 02/13/2017 7:41:37 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: TXnMA

Silly people evacuating.


34 posted on 02/13/2017 7:42:27 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: WildHighlander57

Come on, like someone seeing that that cool engineered “slide” didn’t think, “Who’s up for tubing!”

The life expectancy of a dam is 50 years. Nearly all dams in the US are older than that. Trump has spoken about our failing infrastructure and this is a biggy.


35 posted on 02/13/2017 7:51:21 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: TXnMA

As a historical fact over 150 years ago many hillsides identical to the one here were hydraulically water blasted by gold miners and washed away looking for gold, you can still see the tailings mounds around Oroville today, its only a matter of time before the damaged main spillway continues to erode the mountain and or if they continue to use the emergency spillway. They cannot shut down the main long enough for repairs.

The dam may remain but the mountain under the spillway will go.


36 posted on 02/13/2017 8:00:14 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best!)
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To: bgill

Oh yeah on that slide! I thought that when I first saw the pictures of where it broke last Wednesday :)


37 posted on 02/13/2017 8:04:12 AM PST by Wneighbor (A pregnant woman is responsible for TWO lives, not one. (It's a wonderful "deplorable" truth))
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To: wbarmy

The unused capacity available in Lake Mead right now (roughly 15 million acre-feet) could hold four times the current water behind the Oroville dam.

http://lakemead.water-data.com/


38 posted on 02/13/2017 8:23:52 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

That is correct but Lake Mead looks nearly empty. Not enough to run the generators, although the operators there say they can keep them going from inlet openings deeper down.

The whole thing looks like a bad scene from a movie.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/water-environment/lake-mead-s-low-levels-could-trigger-federal-shortage-2017


39 posted on 02/13/2017 8:41:59 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: TXnMA

Nice Picture!!!!

But isn’t the ridge disappearing due to the onslaught from the spillway? And the excess water spillway looks like it is about to go too.

Which still does no good if the water level keeps rising faster than the water can go over the spillway, which has happened in other areas. I was in North Dakota when the Red River of the North decided to over flow in a lot of places, even though its banks were designed to control that.


40 posted on 02/13/2017 8:44:55 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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