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Crane Exit Path - Root Ball Removed - Hillside work - Curved form puzzle

The mid-spillway crane has exited stage right. Just in time for the sidewall section "joining". There is a small hillside "jog" that likely was filled in with support cribbing & wood to facilitate an even weight distribution. You wouldn't want to have a focused weight on the back tracks so as to protect the finishing concrete layer.

Another interesting question arises on the curved sidewall form that is laying in the spillway next to the far sidewall. This may have been an unintentional result from excessive adhesion in removing the sidewall from the concrete pour.

How? The inner wood of the sidewall forms are coated with a material that is intended to facilitate a non-bonding interface to the newly poured concrete. If this interface coating isn't "just right" the pull forces to remove the form may result in what is currently the "bent condition" of this form. The form has a set of seven steel dual "ribs" that are designed to "stiffen" the form. The bent nature of the form reveals the strong forces to cause this curvature of the array of steel ribbings.

The other possibility is that these forms are intentionally slightly curved in construction to facilitate a positive contact force with the internal spacer blocks. Anchoring the form in the concrete with temporary bolts at the bottom and then the steel supports maintain the upper form positive contact force.

When comparing the Sep 18, 2017 post 4262 photo of the crane in the spillway, there are forms stacked that are straight and true that are adjacent to a "curved" form. Thus, contradicting the supposition of a pre-curved construction approach.

Optimal construction requires the "reuse" of these forms. Perhaps they have a way of rehabilitating or readjusting a form back to its reusable state - without a significant amount of work.

Perhaps a time lapse series of the construction would give clues to this puzzle.

How will they Get the Crane Out? (Post# 4262)

Crane exit path revealed. Wood support materials likely used for small hillside climb & to distribute the weight over the leveling concrete. Near picture view reveals root ball has been removed plus rock materials. The original tree with the "cut" remains in this photo.



4,340 posted on 10/09/2017 8:12:56 PM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333

In my quick view of the form I will hazard a guess. I believe that the wall thickness camber is achieved with a curved exterior form. I hadn’t seen the form in prior pictures, but that is what it looks like. When you have a “release” failure, generally you tear up or twist the form if you are doing a real fast crane pull on a gang form removal — this form is uniformly curved.


4,342 posted on 10/09/2017 8:29:26 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: EarthResearcher333

For form release, I will tell an old story about release agents. My dad was doing an early tilt up in the 1940s (or perhaps just prior to the war) at the old downtown municipal airport. He thought it was the first tilt up in KC but wasn’t sure.

He was having trouble (perhaps due to temperature) with have the slab release for the tilt lift. As he had done a lot of work in the stockyards at that period as well, he went and got a mixture of sheeps’ wool lanolin and tallow. It worked.


4,343 posted on 10/09/2017 8:34:08 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: EarthResearcher333

The wall profile is curved. The forms are supposed to be like this.


4,347 posted on 10/10/2017 9:00:22 AM PDT by marmaly
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I have been plagued with optical illusions due to the shear
size of this project and the many components since day one.

I think what appears to be a “curved sidewall” is not that at all.
I think it is the form for the sidewall ready to fill the crane exit path.
What appears to the eye to be curved,
is just the wider built-in buttressing of the bottom side.

I could be wrong, it wouldn’t be the first time!!!


4,348 posted on 10/10/2017 9:05:10 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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