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To: EarthResearcher333
I've been thinking all week about the failure by DWR to acknowledge the green patch. It may have been in the redacted from public eyes section. I hope so. Because on 9/11 this week, we were counting up the deaths that the Arabs took while crashing American jetliners into living people and buildings; plus tallying the loss of life from Hurricane Irma.

This is hard to put in writing but it must be said:

The number of Americans who will die after a catastrophic failure of the tallest dam in the USA will be exponentially higher.

This is so serious that I've come to the conclusion that somehow, someone, must ring the alarm. The Governor of California is responsible for the longterm evasion of Oroville Dam's current and future problem now of the Emergency Spillway and next if and when the dam is breached. And from trying to stretch my few brain cells to understand the physics you explained above last week, there isn't any doubt in my mind that “Houston, we have a problem.”

To all who are reading this historical thread, what can we do to make Californians aware en masse that they need to demand an honest, non-redacted investigation of the green patch growing on the side of one of the most important sources of water for North, Central and Southern counties?

4,248 posted on 09/13/2017 10:36:26 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education and the forests!)
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To: The Westerner
BTW - There are good people working hard "inside the system" to get proper analyses done regarding the threat of the leaking within the dam.

Re: Redaction: DWR has NOT released ANY of the cited references in their Green area report. So it is not an issue of redaction, it is an issue of numerous documents that are 100% NOT available for independent expert confirmation of their analyses.

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Opinion/Observation: Until major changes occur within DWR, it will be business as usual. Proof: Look at the recent articles revealing the indecision and disarray exhibited by DWR - to where the sheriff accidentally discovered the danger and then drove DWR to accept the decision to evacuate 188,000+ residents, who were at an immediate risk of a 30 foot wall of water racing down the mountain, potentially within an hour.

This history reveals that the public will likely not have any substantive warning to a suddenly developing problem if it were related to an escalation of leakage (to the level of a threat to the dam). What likely will occur is that individual conscientious "sources" will inform the public via back channels. Social media will then take over. The citizens may only get a warning early enough through such "channels or sources". The information would quickly be boosted by other people observing "activity" at the face of the dam (inspectors, potential equipment, etc).

During any "social media" escalation to new information, DWR will have to respond with "statements", yet the issue becomes that to which DWR cannot answer the degree of the danger as they have no idea to the internal state of the dam (broken instruments & relying on peripheral "indicators" only via seepage).

So essentially, the public is left in a state of - "who do you trust?" - the public may take action to get out of harms way to be on the safe side. This may be turn out to be what saves more lives.

I believe that DWR did a great disservice to the public in issuing a "Public Relations" Green Area report rather than a real comprehensive "face the full facts" engineering analysis and true risk assessment. By DWR choosing "A Public Relations" report, they are instilling complacency in the public to the danger that may be lurking. This instilled complacency could make the difference between the public making their own decision to get out of harms way when the only source of real information on an escalation is from "social media" breaking information.

4,249 posted on 09/14/2017 12:43:16 AM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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