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Hi Jim, You realize you just circled around to the point of the original post (3,975). :-0 e.g. Congressman Doug LaMalfa is using the only leverage right now that works. He understands the game & the fight. He is working for his constituents in a smart move that bypasses.

In a way, the blowout failure may end up being "the" major event for CA residents in getting what is "wrong" exposed. I believe there are "more shoes to drop" that will further this exposure.

As an aside, I wouldn't cast a wide dispersion over the voters (i.e. they deserve what they get meme). A good part of areas of California are hard working "red area voters", especially N. CA (and in areas in the rest of the state).

This forum has provided information which has helped the people stay informed so they can hold the "top down" accountable. I can assure you that many have been motivated to take action.

Oroville has gathered the world's attention, including within the states. There are still serious problems that threaten this structure (gate failures, anchor tendons, 16+ foot crack in Pier 10 [gate 8], & through the dam leakage). If anything, the residents need all the advocates they can get (Trump's appointee to FERC, Congressman Doug LaMalfa, Legislator Gallagher, State Sen Nielsen, Commissioners, Oroville Strong, FOR, et al) to fight these serious issues.

Thanks for providing that perspective about people get what they deserve. One could say that about the whole country for electing Obama.

Been meaning to mention that after mentioning to you that I check the reservoir stats daily, something changed on the DWR web page. Cannot find a link to the daily storage stats. In fact, the site seems redesigned and unusable.

http://www.cityoforoville.org/home/showdocument?id=14878

Pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9(d)(4), the Council will meet with the Acting City Administrator and City Attorney regarding potential initiation of litigation – one case (related to Oroville Spillway incident).

Those "good guys" so to speak are going to either get more active (a lot of changes throughout our history including our founding have been driven by a minority of folks), leave the state, or take the consequences of massive unaccountability and mismanagement.

I think you've done a lot of good here ER help to raise awareness of the strata of not only engineering and geological problems at Oroville Dam but politically at the CA state level.

The CA government for its own sake and survival may fix this problem. But government never permanently fixes itself. It is not in its interest to do so. If at some point the people of CA don't take the ball, run with it, and force permanent change and accountability, then this all could have been a missed opportunity.