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Texas Salon Owner Tells Bernie Her Business Can't Afford Obamacare. His Response Stops Viewers Cold
IJR ^ | 02/08/2017 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 02/08/2017 1:18:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind

During the Sanders-Cruz debate on the future of Obamacare, A small business from Texas confronted Bernie Sanders about exploding health care costs under Obamacare, telling him she simply can’t afford to provide insurance for all of her employees.

During CNN's Ted Cruz-Bernie Sanders debate on Tuesday, the business owner, who operates several hair salons in Texas, asked Sanders how she can comply with Obamacare without passing on costs to customers or lowering her employees’ wages. She said she has just under 50 employees.

WATCH: Sanders and a small business owner go back and forth in a fascinating exchange. #CNNDebateNight pic.twitter.com/mO5FLXJGBM

— MRCTV.org (@mrctv) February 8, 2017

“Let me give you an answer you will not be happy with,” Sanders replied. “I think that businesses that employ 50 people or more… I’m sorry, I think that in America today, everybody should have health care. And if you have more than 50 people, you know what, I’m afraid to tell you, I think you will have to provide health insurance.”

The business owner quickly shot back:

“So my question is how do I do that without raising my prices to my customers or lowing the wages to my employees?”

Sanders went on to argue that it's “unfair” that there might be “somebody else in Fort Worth who is providing decent health insurance to their employees,” but they have to compete with her business that doesn't provide an employer-based health care plan.

“I think you’ll find the profit margin in my entire industry about the same," the business owner replied.

The reactions to the exchange were harsh:

Sanders tells a business owner she should be forced to pay for insurance. Which means firing people. Because stupid. #CNNDebateNight— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 8, 2017

small business owner: i can't afford to stay in business and simultaneously provide healthcare for my employees

sanders: go out of business— Anna-Kay Fischer ⓥ (@annakayfischer) February 8, 2017

Wow that question from the small business owner was BRUTAL for Sanders. BRUTAL. #CNNDebateNight— Bill (@DefendWallSt) February 8, 2017

Sanders should've been more prepared for the question from the small-business owner. Is a common critique of ACA. #CNNDebateNight— Jake T. Apodaca (@jakeapodaca) February 8, 2017

Sanders isn’t coming off well here; looks like he’s lecturing a small business owner on how to run her business.— Sterling Beard (@SterlingCBeard) February 8, 2017

To be fair, Sanders ultimately conceded that he doesn't know much about hair salons in Fort Worth, Texas.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; healthcare; obamacare; smallbusiness
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To: Pearls Before Swine

It’s pretty hard for me to listen to Bernie lecture a business owner.Bernie was a bum who got married and brought his new bride back to a dirt floor shack to call home.


21 posted on 02/08/2017 1:36:37 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: SeekAndFind
Liberals couldn't get communist single payer health care so they slammed in fascist Obamacare™ instead. It's fascist because healthcare is allowed to be privately owned but is tightly controlled by the government.

Now they scream "fascist" at everyone who wants to stop this fascist system.

That's the crazy world we live in.
22 posted on 02/08/2017 1:37:01 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How does a guy who never had a job become an expert at business or (fill in the blank)?

Answer: Get elected.


23 posted on 02/08/2017 1:41:29 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Say what you will about The Donald, but he has all the right enemies.)
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To: Tzimisce

Well, Marx let his own children starve so he and Sanders are two of a kind. They tell other people how they must live while ignoring or being insensitive to anyone’s needs but their own.


24 posted on 02/08/2017 1:57:21 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: Rewrite all schoolbooks K-12!)
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To: Tzimisce
Correct.

Karl Marx hated the petit bourgeoisie with a passion. They tend to be a conservative bunch. Hard working and religious. Marx couldn't stand them. He hated them more than the "ruling class" because the petit bourgeoisie aspired to be wealthier, to succeed, to climb that economic ladder. To Marx, that was dangerous to the proletariat gaining strength and confidence to overthrow the "ruling class".

25 posted on 02/08/2017 1:58:30 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw this exchange, Sanders is an ass! He doesn’t care about people like her!


26 posted on 02/08/2017 2:04:32 PM PST by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Eventually, you run out of other peoples’ money to give away.


27 posted on 02/08/2017 2:18:19 PM PST by HiJinx (It's Morning in America Once Again)
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To: SeekAndFind

What do you expect from a washed up old commie life failure?

Surely it is not sanity!


28 posted on 02/08/2017 2:38:41 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SeekAndFind
Socialist Sanders doesn't know how to run a government either...

Go out of business?? To small to succeed...

29 posted on 02/08/2017 3:10:08 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: SeekAndFind

So here you have Sanders, a worthless, lazy Socialist, don’t forget he was kicked out of a commune for not doing anything,who never had a real job, run any kind of business, tell this poor woman for all intents and purposes to just close up and go out of business.

What a Total ASS. This is the real problem, politicians who have never done anything telling people how to run a business. This is the reason we are in real trouble on Health Care and it’s costs.


30 posted on 02/08/2017 3:29:48 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SeekAndFind
To be fair, Sanders ultimately conceded that he doesn't know much about hair salons in Fort Worth, Texas.

they forgot the sarcasm tag.
The type of business is immaterial.
It's a RATs way of deflecting the question.
31 posted on 02/08/2017 3:50:07 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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" Go out of business."

Well, it was mighty nice of him to give her that option.

Under Directive 10-289, it was forbidden to close a business just because it couldn't even survive, much less profit, due to Federal Government regulations.

32 posted on 02/08/2017 3:52:19 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: SeekAndFind

Bernie is apparently a consistent socialist.

Of course he doesnt employ anyone. Or ever has.

Socialists are leeches on productive society.


33 posted on 02/08/2017 3:58:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: All

I remember years ago when Hillary said if a business couldn’t provide health insurance it should not be in business.


34 posted on 02/08/2017 3:59:58 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: SeekAndFind

I watched that exchange. Bernie failed.


35 posted on 02/08/2017 4:46:06 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about getting the government out of the health care business?

Return the medical care and the insurance to the private market where it belongs. Additionally, reduce or eliminate many of the ridiculous subsidies, thus further reducing bureaucracy and paperwork costs.

Many medications and routine office visits should be paid for out of pocket, and billing rules need to be tightened up considerably.
A bottle of ibuprofen covered by insurance costs 5x the OTC cost. Why? Because it can.
Medicaid gets billed for 5 office visits, when all 5 procedures easily could have been done in one visit.

Anytime you have government involved, you are forced to pay salaries, operational, and paperwork costs for a whole multi-level layer of bureaucrats between the service you are providing, and the user of that service. Plus, you are inviting massive fraud.


36 posted on 02/08/2017 4:48:19 PM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m honestly surprised, as a small biz owner, she didn’t retort back two-fold:
1) Easy to say, but it’s not *YOUR* $$ used for these mandates
2) What *ELSE* should an employer be forced to provide for their employees? Car insurance, home mortgages, child-care, etc.?

Course, I would add ‘old faithful’: After what % of my life’s work, that govt confiscates for another, does slavery begin?


37 posted on 02/08/2017 5:18:19 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: max americana

Misnomer. If you are required to *share* XYZ, you never *OWNED* XYZ.


38 posted on 02/08/2017 5:20:54 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He does know about writing porn in New York City though.

Bernie's kind of people...

Back in N.Y.C.


39 posted on 02/08/2017 5:50:17 PM PST by BlueDragon (my kinfolk had to fight off wagon burnin' scalp taking Comanches, reckon we could take on a few more)
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