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To: pfflier
The spec ed students had no chance of getting hired, the kids that missed the chance who knows????

Very wrong. Let me present you just a bit of information.Thirty years of study shows us that when ALL students are learning together they ALL do better. This means even students with the most needs do better in their grade-level, when they are given the right support. What is inclusive education? Inclusive education means everyone is included in their grade-level in their neighborhood school. Inclusion means students are given the help they need to be full members of their class. Inclusive education involves districts supporting schools as they include ALL the students who live in their communities. How do teachers meet the needs of all students in an inclusive school?

• Teachers plan their lessons to meet each student’s learning needs.

• Teachers teach in small groups that can change as the students’ needs change.

• Teachers teach the same content in different ways.

• Teachers work with other adults in the school to help meet each student’s needs.Why inclusive education?

Studies show that students with and without disabilities in inclusive schools:

• do better in reading and math

• benefit from the friendships they form

• learn to value differences.

7 posted on 02/08/2017 11:18:05 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: New Perspective

Very wrong. Let me present you just a bit of information.Thirty years of study shows us that when ALL students are learning together they ALL do better. This means even students with the most needs do better in their grade-level, when they are given the right support. What is inclusive education? Inclusive education means everyone is included in their grade-level in their neighborhood school. Inclusion means students are given the help they need to be full members of their class. Inclusive education involves districts supporting schools as they include ALL the students who live in their communities. How do teachers meet the needs of all students in an inclusive school?

• Teachers plan their lessons to meet each student’s learning needs.

• Teachers teach in small groups that can change as the students’ needs change.

• Teachers teach the same content in different ways.

• Teachers work with other adults in the school to help meet each student’s needs.Why inclusive education?

Studies show that students with and without disabilities in inclusive schools:

• do better in reading and math

• benefit from the friendships they form

• learn to value differences.
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Boy that hasn’t been my experience. Disrupted classrooms, poor educational outcomes. lower scores, less all round learning has been my experience.

I would suspect the studies prove what the teacher’s union want them to prove.


14 posted on 02/08/2017 11:59:59 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: New Perspective

“Very wrong. Let me present you just a bit of information. Thirty years of study shows us that when ALL students are learning together they ALL do better.”

I’m having a lot of trouble responding to that in some productive way. First it gave me an acute case of Tourette’s that had to be suppressed, then it made me want to act like a bully and launch a salvo of insulting comments regarding intelligence. Finally I just froze, fingers poised over the keyboard, mouth agape.

It is as though someone had announced that controlling malaria by spraying for mosquitos was a bad thing, or that the Hillbilly Whorehopper and the Negro from Nairobi were great presidents. Without wanting to seem overly confrontational, that notion is not merely wrong, it is obstreperously, obnoxiously, offensively, risibly, dangerously wrong.

So-called “inclusive education” always and only interferes with the education of the rest of the kids. Not only has there never been any other outcome, it is ridiculous to suspect for an instant that there ever could be any other outcome.

Data supporting your position are as credible as the “data” that “support” the wackadoodle lunacy of anthropogenic global warming.

Sorry.

“Teachers plan their lessons to meet each student’s learning needs.”

And I’ll bet they’re thrilled to take on the extra work.

“Teachers teach in small groups that can change as the students’ needs change.”

So, we’re going to have four times as many teachers? Or are the other small groups left to pick their noses while the teacher “teaches” one small group?

“Teachers teach the same content in different ways.”

Are you kidding? Teachers aren’t smart or educated enough to teach content even in a single way.

“Teachers work with other adults in the school to help meet each student’s needs.”

And they are thrilled to take on the extra work in their copious free time. Wow. I hadn’t realized what a bunch of saints these hypothetical teachers are.

“Why inclusive education?”

Because we are hell-bent on committing cultural and national suicide as quickly as possible?

“Studies show”

The only study I trust is the one showing that 99% of all studies are bull crap.

“that students with and without disabilities in inclusive schools:…do better in reading and math”

If that seems true, it is because those schools move so slowly through the material that there is less to learn, so regular kids get higher grades for doing less.

“benefit from the friendships they form”

Pie in the sky. If that happens, it’s so rare that the good it does is overwhelmed by the harm.

“learn to value differences.”

What kind of leftard garbage is that? What next, you gonna tell me that “diversity is our strength?” Diversity is where nations go to die.

No nation can excel unless it allows the best—the smartest, the strongest, the most motivated—to surge ahead of the pack.


23 posted on 02/08/2017 1:06:31 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: New Perspective
I have accomodated autistic children, those with Tourettes, amputees and kids with many other disabilities successfully. But, most importantly, they contributed as much to their success as I did and in that context I'm sure they enriched the total classroom environment.

In the context of a performance based training class where the student cannot communicate or perform any semblance of the required work, I couldn't disagree with you more.

Safety around lethal voltages was the biggest concern. Imagine someone with involuntary muscle spasms sticking meter leads into a 440V power panel. Another issue was the quality of the training time for all the students. Other students lost 5-10 minutes of lab time each session to allow accomodations.

If the special ed students had been allowed to do this after school, I would have felt that the other 26 kids would have gotten more out of the regular time class and they would have all gotten everything possible out of the class.

25 posted on 02/08/2017 1:10:17 PM PST by pfflier
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