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Should colleges which get a revenue surge from foreign students experience a corresponding decrease in federal aid?
1 posted on 02/08/2017 7:38:52 AM PST by Academiadotorg
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How about no federal subsidies or aid for anyone? If foreigners want to come here and pay for college why should we care at all? There is no shortage of places to take their money.


24 posted on 02/08/2017 8:41:31 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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There are a number of good ideas being considered in response here to the present problem. Rather than react to the present problem, I usually try to consider what the source was that caused the problem to eventually arise.

Conservatives regularly state that liberals dont understand economics and that academia lives in its own alternate reality. I think that the proof that this is true and that there is an underlying cultural problem in universities is put on display here for everyone to see.

Lets reimagine the problem using another large institution: McDonalds has found that foriegners are buying up all the hamburgers in NY. This has driven up the price of hamburgers at all burgershops and shut out a large segment of native population that wants hamburgers.

What would McDonald's do?

The answer to a large number of problems with all levels of education becomes quite obvious. Once the governments, the fed in particular, are removed from running education and chartered businesses have taken their place, most of the underlying issues in education would have been fixed provided we avoid any of the voucher scams so many faux conservatives peddle.

27 posted on 02/08/2017 8:52:26 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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Contact your alumni associations, people!

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42 posted on 02/08/2017 9:47:33 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")
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Exactly!


44 posted on 02/08/2017 10:30:45 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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This is one of the reasons public colleges can keep their prices inflated to the moon. Foreign students put a demand floor under tuition prices.

Other problems include too many TA/GA/RA positions and grad school slots going to visa holders in some departments so they can stay in the country.

In way too many cases we don’t have people who communicate well enough in english to be effective classroom instructors lined up to be the next generation of professors. The quality of education in some schools is already suffering badly for it.

And then of course there’s the problem of cynical HR depts giving them preference so they can staff themselves with indentured servants. Plenty of good US students coming up through STEM programs and being unable to find work/internship opportunities after not only graduating but passing professional certification boards.

H1-b should be suspended or phased out completely. If our grads aren’t “qualified” enough, take it up with the schools or testing/certification organizations. The O-1 visa, which is actually reserved for people with exceptional skills already insures companies still have access to the “best and brightest” they’re always squawking about. H1-b is intentional wage arbitrage against a specific class of people and needs to be gone. We also still have “normal” immigration channels in addition to O-1.

Other ideas? 1/2 of tuition from foreign students should be set aside as aid, and could offset some federal aid. The claim that US students are subsidized by foreign students would then actually be true. Admits to competitive grad programs, paid fellowships, and stipend programs should be capped at 10% foreign students. This should apply equally to shools receiving any type of federal or state aid money, tax credits, or grants.


45 posted on 02/08/2017 4:36:13 PM PST by Eisenhower Republican (Nope. Still not tired of winning.)
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I know of a boy who applied to Yale. He graduated second in his HS class & his father graduated from Yale. He did not get accepted there but was accepted at Notre Dame. There are a lot of foreigners who get into Yale.


46 posted on 02/08/2017 4:56:49 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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