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Reverting paved roads to UNpaved status
Alabama News ^ | 24 January 2017 | Tim Lennox

Posted on 02/06/2017 4:05:45 PM PST by Lorianne

One place it has been done is Butler County, Alabama

Some cities and counties in the U.S. are avoiding the cost of repaving roads by converting them to unpaved roads.

Among the municipalities in the report is Butler County Alabama, which is listed as having 250 Miles of unpaved roads and spending- $4-Million a year on roads. The county officials say the decision to covert a road from paved to unpaved was made because it was the most cost effective way to deal with a problem road. The report does not identify the road.

In some cases, officials just let the roads deteriorate. In others they crunch up the existing road surface and add gravel to create a new road surface.

There have been about 70 such conversions, stretching along 550 miles of road in at least 27 states, according to a 2015 review of the projects produced by the National Cooperative Highway Research Program.

(Excerpt) Read more at alabamanews.net ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: commonsense
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To: headstamp 2

They’ve used geotextile for decades in Europe. By using geo, you get an extremely long lasting surface due to the additional support. The gravel cannot sink into the subgrade.


21 posted on 02/06/2017 4:44:19 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: MeganC

Bingo on highway funds to mass transit!


22 posted on 02/06/2017 4:48:16 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; All

There are also some novel polymer and cement treating methods that work excellently to produce a cheap, smooth driving surface that haven’t gained much traction here due to aesthetics. They “drive” like a paved road but look like dirt.


23 posted on 02/06/2017 4:52:21 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; All

Oh, and also there is a phenomenal rubberized chip seal/rehabilitation material I’ve worked with once so far that is amazing. It’s made with asphalt emulsion and quantities of virgin and recycled rubber granules. It is insanely effective, I’ve seen before and after pics followed by years after and the latter still looked like they just did it. I actually saved some of the material to experiment with making a pellet/bullet trap with it.


24 posted on 02/06/2017 4:59:46 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Lorianne

In other news, California is conducting a study on converting the horseless carriage back to the horse.


25 posted on 02/06/2017 5:00:44 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: MeganC

In California lots of funds are spent on the Bike lanes, it is ridiculous the amount of money they spend on those.


26 posted on 02/06/2017 5:01:04 PM PST by easternsky
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To: b4me

Oiling the rural roads worked great until a few instances of dumbasses oiling them with PCB contaminated oil occurred.


27 posted on 02/06/2017 5:02:56 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Celerity

Sounds like you’ve never been on a dirt bike.


28 posted on 02/06/2017 5:07:20 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: tet68

I saw what you did there.


29 posted on 02/06/2017 5:07:24 PM PST by Klemper
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To: meatloaf

They’ve used it for as long here, most contractors though seem to think they can process the subgrade to a suitable depth/moisture-density and work at that for a while before they finally listen to us and go grid or fabric in a change order... :-/


30 posted on 02/06/2017 5:08:48 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

That’s very interesting. Do you have a link?


31 posted on 02/06/2017 5:09:16 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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32 posted on 02/06/2017 5:10:35 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Lorianne

My experience here in WV is that, if the county spent half the time and money used for grading/graveling on keeping the drainage ditches and culverts clear, they’d end up time and money ahead. Last summer, they came through and did our road. A week later we had a run of thunderstorms. Washed the gravel right off and it’s been mud ever since. Most of the ditches are just suggestions, except for the new ones the running water made.


33 posted on 02/06/2017 5:14:41 PM PST by chrisser
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To: central_va

They were fun for that, so long as you kept it between the ditches. There’s a definite art to driving at speed on loose gravel, you tend to learn how to control the vehicle fairly quickly, or you’ll find yourself greasy side up.


34 posted on 02/06/2017 5:21:31 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Lorianne

Reads like Atlas Shrugged. Who is John Galt?


35 posted on 02/06/2017 5:33:30 PM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Aggie Mama; alarm rider; alexander_busek; AlligatorEyes; AmericanGirlRising; ...

Starnesville ping.


36 posted on 02/06/2017 5:34:36 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: easternsky

Bike lanes are insanely expensive, but one thing I’ve learned is that the bicyclists aren’t going away. I’m more in favor of them than I once was, just to get them out of the traffic lanes.


37 posted on 02/06/2017 5:45:37 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: BroJoeK

You Sir have made the most informed post of the thread.

My grandfather was (for many decades) a country road commisioner in northern Kansas. I remember him grading muddy roads when there was nobody available to hire.


38 posted on 02/06/2017 5:53:24 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: MrEdd; BroJoeK

Dittos!

I would much rather drive/ride on a maintained dirt road than a potholed “paved” one.

Easier on the body and the vehicle.


39 posted on 02/06/2017 6:01:57 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I can look around. I knew a guy who was involved in it and went to China to do it road wise. I just watched over a cement treat for soil stabilization weekend before last too (I do a lot of geotech these days), so for me it’s mainly experience/word of mouth.


40 posted on 02/06/2017 6:03:55 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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