Posted on 01/27/2017 8:46:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
I remember talking to a woman in Purchasing at a company where I worked once that told me she had to track all of the White Out they used (back when people still bought White Out), and all the fluorescent bulbs they bought. I thought she was making that up, and told her to just ignore it. She told me there were fines if she couldn’t track the information in detail. Unbelievable.
LEDs seem, at least, to be wonderful. If some people are bothered by the 60Hz oscillation, I would think that it would be possible to power LEDs with DC, which wouldnt have the problem.It definitely would be an added cost, I admit - but its beginning to look like LEDs are cost-effective, so it might be tolerable. Incandescents do burn out . . .
At least itd beat going back to kerosene lamps.
My EZ Bake oven doesn't seem to work as well with an LED though, LOL.
Please bring back gasoline cans with normal spouts and air vents!!!
Lifetime supply...Me too.
BUT, now that the LEDs are down to a buck and SO much brighter
my senior eyes like them better.
I found the incandescent bulb ban to be not just stupid, but something the fed gov never ever should have gotten into. It’s one item that proves Bush was a closet lefty.
Now leaving it up to the states, I can see this. Where in warm states like southern Cal, the excess heat created by the bulb would be a detriment.
But in states where it’s cool most of the year, the heat byproduct of an incandescent bulb is a plus. I use a 60 watt bulb to heat the well house, just keep it above freezing.
LED bulbs are good and more energy efficient (less heat and uses less electricity), but they cost a significant multiple of what incandescent bulbs cost. It will take many years to cover the investment in the new bulbs to make it worthwhile to switch over if we now had a choice.
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Who was it that used the phrase about the “giant sucking sound?”
EPA exit plan
Excellent now take half of the Bureau of Land Management too.
It doesn't matter what level of government we examine..., all will continue to exist if not checked by budgetary and judicial restraints! The same holds true for charities! Once formed, should they "Cure" a societal ill, they will morph into a new quest to keep their relevancy!
Let us fervently hope that we will see some reduction of non-essential agency powers in the coming years! President Reagan failed, perhaps President Trump will succeed!
Me too! I have like, 8 cases of 60 watts.
And Primatine Mist?
Its not about money its about medical condition. See my posts above.
I read those posts. My point was thatI hope my jargon is not incomprehensible . . .
- Not everyone suffers from that medical condition (howbeit not everyone is handicapped, and we have people suing under the Americans with Disabilities Act to require accommodations which are far more intrusive than not forbidding the sale of incandescent lights).
- 60Hz alternating current heats the bulbs filament to a white heat, and that heating actually occurs at 120 Hz and higher harmonics thereof. The filament has thermal inertia; its temperature and therefore its brightness does not drop to zero (or anything like it) when the current instantaneously drops to zero twice in each sinusoidal cycle. That is why your husband tolerates the light of an incandescent bulb so much better than that of an LED which experiences 60Hz alternating current.
- Although it is inevitable that the electrical energy input to any household light will be 60Hz AC, it is possible - even routine - for that power input to be converted to (essentially) steady Direct Current. Every charger for a phone or laptop computer includes a rectifier. People who are bothered by LED light are not, I presume, necessarily bothered by the light from a laptop computer - and yet the laptop computers screen is nothing but an array of LEDs.
The implication would be that you could arrange a circuit with rectifier diodes and coils, capacitors, and/or rechargeable batteries which you could interpose between the 60Hz AC power and the LED. That circuit would provide the electrical equivalent of the thermal inertia of the incandescent bulb, and the result would be that the light from an LED fed by such a circuit would be flicker-free.
- My point in referring to the efficiency and service life advantages of the LEL was only in the context of the cost you would incur to implement the circuit I propose. My proposal would cost money, without a doubt - but not necessarily more money than the LED would save you in electricity cost and in the cost of the shorter life of the incandescent bulb.
A couple years back, I bought probably forty dimmable LED bulbs from Costco for around $300 or so. My power bill went from around $100 per month to $65. They’re already (twice) paid for. We’ve had one bulb fail, and it was brand new. Swapped it for a good one.
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