Posted on 01/22/2017 8:36:49 AM PST by T-Bird45
“I think Trump ultimately is going to do America and the world a service by becoming the vehicle that will finally take down right-wing conservative politics for a generation or two.”
Wrong conclusion. This person needs to go back to the cabin and do a little more thinking. Maybe try some honest, humble soul searching this time and try to understand what it is about their thinking that went off track.
We know an ultra liberal, kool-aid drinking couple who slunk off to a cabin in the woods after the election, too. Went there to lick their wounds and stoke their anger.
It seems like a popular lefty thing to do when they don’t get their way. They pretend that they are doing something wholesome in communing with nature, but they are really just seeking a place to stoke their rage in private. They are plotting, planning and scheming. It would never occur to them that all the plotting, planning and scheming they have done in the past was taking them in the wrong direction.
After this couple we know got back to civilization, they looked around for some place to channel their anger, disappointment and misery and noticed that a women’s anti-trump rally was being planned in DC and signed up. It never occurred to them to investigate just who was behind the protest or even what the purpose of the protest was. They just joined up like the useful idiots they are. They have no idea that support for sharia is at the root of it and probably wouldn’t want to know. They are that blind and that stupid.
We tried the extremist left - it almost killed us. We're going to go right for a while....or we will perish from this earth.
-John Adams
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Tracing back, this new revolution began during Bush 43's second term, when the Democrats (and their media) shifted the abuse into high gear. Those past twelve years roughly align with Adams' thoughts on the pre-war changes in the minds of colonial Americans.
BTW, this factor also applies to Brexit. People like the writer of this piece may think that these events are anomalies and will not change the "big picture", but time may tell otherwise.
Thanks for posting this, I do think it’s worthwhile for us here at Free Republic to consider these arguments. George W. Bush won two terms but he did grievous damage to the GOP, to conservatism, to the nation, by steering us in a couple of very wrong directions. Whether it’s luck or the grace of God, we’ve been given one last chance to save this Republic in the form of Donald Trump and the current GOP majority in both houses of Congress, but if we blow this time, it’s probably over for good. As a lifelong resident of California, I can attest that the author is correct about one thing for sure: conservative Republicans have been entirely wiped out in the state that bequeathed Ronald Reagan to the world.
But the author is also dead wrong on several fronts: it is not correct to say that the California economy is working for everyone. For about a quarter of the state’s population, the educated elite, yes, it works quite well. Not only do “we” (I have to count myself a member, coupla elite grad degrees in hand, 200K+/year) command some of the highest salaries in the world, we often make even more money than that just sitting in our houses that appreciate 10-20% year after year. Add to that, the endless flood of cheap labor into the state, not to mention the capitalized digital economy that gets to operate at a loss in order to establish new economy market share, and our lives are not that much different than the modern equivalent of the slaveholders of yore, never preparing our own meals, cleaning our own houses, cutting our own grass, washing our own cars, or nowadays, with Uber, we don’t even have drive ourselves anywhere.
So, yes, for that group, California as currently constituted works great. But for the other 75%, it only works to the extent that their expectations are far lower than what an American citizen should want out of life. The author cites that even the white working class is on board, and that’s a flat out lie. There is no white working class in most of the state, they have been long since driven out of the state. The majority of the working classes of the state are non-white immigrants and/or their immediate descendants. For them, maybe a life crammed into a small rented apartment in a dangerous neighborhood with crappy schools, constantly at the mercy of one’s landlord and boss, is better than what they left behind, but it would be intolerable for most of the people in middle America who voted for Trump. They expect better and they deserve better.
So, yeah, if the future is a small elite class of highly educated technocrats ruling over a mass of uneducated, impoverished dependent serfs, then yes, California is the model. That may be the globalists wet dream but it’s not the American dream. If we are to reclaim the American dream, it’s based on the idea that every man can rule his own castle, as a strong and independent equal citizen, then Trump is shining the light on the path forward, not trying to return us to some bygone era.
“Here’s what the Electoral College map would look like if only millennials voted.”
The thing is, everyone eventually grows up. I voted democrat until I was 30.
Conservatism is an immutable principle. It cannot be killed - just ignored. It's not dead (in kalifornia), it's just not in practice. Kalifornians are going to regret that they allowed this to happen. The rest of America already regrets it every time another loony liberal from kalifornia shows up in their neighborhood as a refuge.
“”Obamas decade of work will be seen, in the decades to come, as the truly enduring foundation””
As was the Russian Revolution for roughly 75 years!!! Which isn’t far from what obozo and his cohorts were working for the whole time and will CONTINUE TO DO SO!
They failed to mention it’s the end of the eras of Federal Tyranny and the destruction of the 10th Amendment. It must really scare them that Trump wan’t to return the power to the governed over the government.
<< everyone eventually grows up. >>
He’s a millennial and I explain that’s usually what happens.
Many, if not most, depend on government, either for subsidies or to help put their competition out of business (or keep others from entering into the market.)
Mark
Yours were offered with the best of intentions but GIGO (garbage in: garbage out). No matter how long he "thinks", he will invariably come to the same wrong conclusions.
A tactic of the left is to accuse one's debate opponent of being "closed minded" and unable to consider alternate points of view. I always challenge this assertion by saying, "Nonsense. If you can sustain your assertions by virtual of persuasive argument and the introduction of actual evidence I will readily adopt it."
Very occasionally I'll get someone who will attempt an argument but only on the rare occasion. Most lefties do not understand the difference between an argument and an insult.
Peter Leyden is living in a socialist bubble. California is more like the old Soviet Union then anything else. A one party state that has complete control of every aspect of it from the government to education to entertainment and the media.
Opposition is not allowed. No other view other than Democrat talking points are presented. Hell, they even set it up so only Democrats would be running for Congress.
The Democrats have built their utopia on a foundation of sand, it is not a question of if the whole thing collapses, but when.
The left always forget about human nature. A one world government will not work for the same reason there are two Irelands, or two Koreas or the middle east is always in turmoil.
The old Soviet Union managed to hold everything together by using violence. How many are the one worlders willing to kill to impose their view of utopia on the world? And do they really think people will not fight back?
Yes Peter, it is the end of an era, the socialist era of the past 100 plus years. People want to be free to live their lives the way they want, to worship their god they want, to associate with people they want, to speak out on things without fear of punishment.
Love your thoughts on historical parallels and the Adams quote. Now the question becomes whether we are made of the stern stuff those 18th Century revolutionaries were.
Enjoyed your comments that align so well with your screen name. I found your final paragraph to be especially on the mark. I think more than a couple of novelists have made their bones exploring the first sentence of the paragraph and the final sentence on focusing on the future sets the tone for our conversations going forward.
That made me chuckle. Garbage in: Garbage out. How true.
Yes, my advice for the guy was really just rhetorical, anyway. He has no hope of arriving at a different opinion because he is incapable of that kind of honesty and self criticism. Part of being in the liberal cult requires that group think drown out any genuine critical thinking. Any openmindedness they pretend to have is a lie.
“A tactic of the left is to accuse one’s debate opponent of being “closed minded” and unable to consider alternate points of view.”
So true. This is one of the many tactics leftists have memorized to shut down debate. They go on the attack with insults and accusations and hope that you won’t be quick enough to respond.
It is one of the reasons that they have been so successful with name calling, using words like racist, homophobe, bigot, etc. Those words tend to have a paralyzing effect on a lot of honest people and they waste time refuting an empty charge from a defensive position when there was no shred of proof that those labels ever applied. The honest person feels compelled to prove their innocence of the charge before they even have a standing in the debate. Doing that in the face of smug condescension from the other side is a useless exercise.
IF this Liberal jerk doesn’t want to benefit from a cleaner, safer America, more honest AMERICANS working, fewer illegals stealing our jobs & tax money thru EIC ^& ‘child care’ refunds...and a long laundry list of items I am confident that Trump will fix-—I IMPLORE him to go to another country. Please-—sir—leave now while the waiting list doesn’t delay you.
Perhaps Indonesia would suit him-—or Mexico-—or one of the Central Americas. Or Sweden-—be sure to take your young lady friends with you-—!!!
This person has his head completely up his behind and hasn’t paid one bit of attention to the real facts of this country under Obama. Even today, Juan Williams—deliberate traitor—is still banging the drum for Obama-—because he ‘dropped the UNEMPLOYMENT rate from 10% to 4.8 %.
That statistic alone is the biggest lie of the entire 8 years under Obama...followed only by “you will save $2500 a year on your health care premiums”-—and the Russians hacked the voting machines!!!
Don’t know where this person lives most of the time, or what he does for a living——but he certainly is drinking the Kool Aid.
‘Reshaping capitalism’ is a simple two-word phrase that reveals volumes about the left.
Capitalism (read: free markets) shapes itself. It’s the most efficient way to maximize availability and minimize price. Sellers and buyers are satisfied in the least amount of time.
I know you know this already.
But ‘reshaping’ is the age-old conceit that someone out there is smarter than individuals acting in their own best interests. Barack Obama is one of these ‘smarter’ individuals or so he thinks.
"My company Reinvent is really fortunate to be in the middle of that swirl of possibilities. We host Whats Now: San Francisco that focuses on the latest developments in one of the many fields exploding in innovation across the region."
Oh yeah, he plans to raise tons of money on this pontificating nothingness of an article.
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