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To: kingu

We’ve had decades and decades and trillions of dollars of “school reform”. How’s that worked for you? Cowardice in the face of socialist education over the years has destroyed or radically diminished the lives of tens of millions of children.All you’re saying is that you really aren’t prepared to do any serious lifting.

BTW, the League of Nations collapsed without the US. Whether the UN would or would not remains to be seen. But, it is unlikely that it would survive with even a semblance of legitimacy.

From the way you seem to think, you must believe that the EU and Euro will/should survive. You seem to have this belief that some institutions are too big too fail or that big institutions shouldn’t fail. The Brits should have stayed in the EU to “reform” it, right?


72 posted on 01/22/2017 8:36:33 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000
We have for decades maintained the worst schools in the nation, knowing that they are the worst schools, and ‘thrown’ more money at those schools, which actually translates to teachers being paid the same, administrators getting more money, security getting upgrades, metal detectors, and hundreds and hundreds of millions going to pay retirements.

What we haven't done is say ‘Okay, the worst 2% of all schools are all going to close on X date. Everyone who works at those schools will be fired.’ You want to see school standards skyrocket in a little while, that’ll do it. You can create a new school on the same site, but I guarantee that the reborn school will be at least twice as good as the one that closed.

The UN is a much different beast; you don't even have to go far to find the corruption, you can ask anyone and they'll gleefully point to who the worst offenders are, where they have skimmed money and supplies, where they embezzle money and equipment. There's no mystery at all on that front. It wouldn't even take much more than a phone call to get a judge to okay a federal warrant to seize files.

All it really takes is the US government saying ‘No immunity for NGO members.’ Make that announcement, file the search warrants and flood the various UN offices seizing paperwork, all within an hour of the initial announcement and you'll catch MANY with their hands in the cookie jar.

Oh, and by the by, you can be sure in the midst of all of this, the UN itself would be crying to relocate outside the United States. How dare these people actually hold us accountable!

Do I much care if the UN exists or not? Absolutely. I very much care, it supports hundreds of corrupt regimes around the planet, giving them legitimacy and overturning national laws left and right in their ever expanding reach.

But before it gets destroyed, I want that paperwork, I want that evidence, in the hands of US prosecutors, and as many arrests as can be accomplished before they all flee our shores.

I guess we have different versions of courage. My courage is in taking on the enemy in their own grounds and kicking their rumps. Yours is simply trying to deny the enemy their grounds in the US. Both seem to be valid arguments, but I prefer the former.

133 posted on 01/22/2017 4:07:07 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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