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New White House look: Trump gives the Oval Office a makeover
WISH ^ | January 21, 2017 | ap

Posted on 01/21/2017 9:37:39 PM PST by digger48

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To: Disestablishmentarian

No, the lack of will by the socialists who replaced Churchill is what lost the Empire. Furthermore, if Hitler had been allowed to control Stalin’s oil fields, the Reich would have become unstoppable.

Nonsense like this is why people think Buchanan is a closet Nazi.


21 posted on 01/21/2017 10:22:15 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Rebelbase

And have Franklin Graham bless every single room to drive away the demons that accompanied those two hateful cretins that were there before.


22 posted on 01/21/2017 10:27:05 PM PST by AmericanMermaid
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To: Disestablishmentarian

SHOCKED AM I, that someone else reads the truth into the myth of Churchill. He was to be nice, not as portrayed. Not one single little bit.


23 posted on 01/21/2017 10:29:10 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: digger48

I hope he gets rid of the red striped couches.


24 posted on 01/21/2017 10:33:49 PM PST by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: Doogle

Oh, and here I thought this was Obama before his last reincarnation.


25 posted on 01/21/2017 10:41:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, Clinton, McStain, and Graham, with people like this, who needs enemies?)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

>>Dude he conquered France BEFORE he invaded the USSR. Are you nuts?!!!<<

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That is correct (the France part . . . not the “nuts”, I hope).

Britain and France gave an absolute guarantee that they would go to war if Hitler entered Poland to start his march east. That is why Hitler pivoted to the West and made the temporary treaty with USSR.

He had NO NAVY. No chance to invade England or otherwise disturb the British Empire. Germany was strictly a LAND POWER.


26 posted on 01/21/2017 10:50:35 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: RedWulf

Hitler originally imagined being Allies with Britain even helping them to keep their Empire as long as they acquiesced to Hitler having his Empire in the East.

But Von Ribbentrop felt snubbed by the Brits while he was Ambassador there, are grew to loathe the Brits and eventually he converted Hitler over to his side.


27 posted on 01/21/2017 10:54:59 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: RedWulf
Originally he didn’t want to fight a way against the UK and USA. However, Hitler’s desire for conquest kept growing as the successes piled up. I very much doubt he would have stopped once he owned Russia.

Especially since Hitler felt that the Jews ran the US and had taken over the US Government, you think he would have left the US alone? Fat chance.

28 posted on 01/21/2017 10:57:30 PM PST by dfwgator
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29 posted on 01/21/2017 11:12:07 PM PST by jennychase
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To: Disestablishmentarian
Yours is an ignorant post and, worse, it presumes to play what if games even as it gets what actually happened all wrong.


30 posted on 01/21/2017 11:13:33 PM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: jennychase

It looks really nice.


31 posted on 01/21/2017 11:19:42 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Disestablishmentarian

Germany did have a navy. But it was no match for Great Britain, or the United States. At least their surface fleet. That much is true. Furthermore, Nazi Germany was never going to invade England. They had no capability to do so, and I will also agree that Hitler didn’t really want to do so. But to think that the extermination of the Jews would not have happened without a war in the west is complete insanity, I’m sorry. Persecution of Jews in Germany began before 1939.


32 posted on 01/21/2017 11:21:35 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: digger48

President Trump better check the White House for Bugs.

This INCLUDES replacing all LIGHT BULBS. They have mics in them now.


33 posted on 01/21/2017 11:24:48 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Disestablishmentarian
There is no way [Hitler] intended to attack the Brits or America, and would have also left France and the rest of Western Europe alone.

How do we know this? EASY. He had NO NAVY. Totally interested in expanding as a land power far enough to unite Germans and provide sufficient foods (Ukraine) so they would not be starved out again as in WWI.

Yes, it's so EASY. I'm sure Hitler, with his air power and rocket technology , would never have developed nuclear weapons first and used them against any English-speaking nations. After all, the guy was so level-headed and reasonable.

I'm no "rocket scientist, but the friggin' Nazis were trying to develop the A-bomb, for God's sake!

Whatever the thesis behind Buchanan's book might be (and I very much like Patrick Buchanan), it's the height of wishful thinking to imagine that Hitler wouldn't have eventually turned his attention towards the United Kingdom, America, or any other nation, once the mood struck him.

To me, the Nazi regime in Germany, with its desire to develop nuclear weapons, produces just about the strongest argument I can imagine regarding the potential necessity and moral justification of engaging in pre-emptive warfare...

34 posted on 01/21/2017 11:31:26 PM PST by sargon (LS sez: "The Uniparty Establishment has NO idea what's about to hit them!")
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To: Doogle

If it were me, I’d replace every bit of electronics i the WH. Computers, routers, switches, cameras, phone systems.


35 posted on 01/21/2017 11:33:39 PM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: mrreaganaut

>>Nonsense like this is why people think Buchanan is a closet Nazi.<<

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This is the leftist talking point.

Everyone they don’t agree with is Hitler, right?

Let’s not play along.


36 posted on 01/21/2017 11:34:18 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: sargon

hehe

Theory vs. history. See, for example, the use the Nazis intended for the Me264 bomber.


37 posted on 01/21/2017 11:41:59 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SoCal Pubbie

>>But to think that the extermination of the Jews would not have happened without a war in the west is complete insanity, I’m sorry. Persecution of Jews in Germany began before 1939.>>

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I agree this is the weakest part of Buchanan’s argument. I did read Mein Kamph, and I have read the detailed history enough to understand it was Hitler’s personal delusion that was behind the death camps, and not some societal pathology.

However, there is a case to be made for the other view. Persecution of Jews started before 1939, but NOT THE GENOCIDE. That really started when the war started to turn bad on the eastern front. SPECULATIVELY: If the Brits had not attempted to stop Hitler’s march east, Stalin would not have had two extra years to prepare, and maybe a significant chunk (including Ukraine) would have fallen. There is strong evidence that that was Hitler’s true objective. When he failed to exterminate the Bolsheviks, there is evidence that he turned to the extermination of Jews in his conquered areas as a consolation prize. (I am basing that on John Toland’s great biography of Hitler, and not Buchanan.)


38 posted on 01/21/2017 11:44:29 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: digger48
 
 
The best part of that makeover was Obabbles leaving.
 
 

39 posted on 01/21/2017 11:48:48 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: sargon

>>I’m no “rocket scientist, but the friggin’ Nazis were trying to develop the A-bomb, for God’s sake!<<

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So we were better off with Stalin having a massive nuclear arsenal, and taking over half of Europe, and communists grabbing China too?

Because that is THE OUTCOME WE KNOW ABOUT — Terrible.


40 posted on 01/21/2017 11:53:07 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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